2020 College Football thread

[StrangeSox]

 

[Chisoxfn]

If college football ends up shutting down - I hope it is the last straw that forces all of American to start holding ourselves more accountable for doing what we can to put an end to this.  I hope people can ignore politics because I have to imagine a number of these conferences that would shut down have plenty of AD's that probably lean on both sides of the camp politically (i.e., you have some that are democrats and some that are republicans).  End of day decision was made amongst all and given how important college football is in certain pats of the country - I'm kind of curious how this shut down is handled.  

I kind of think of it as - Utah NBA players getting COVID started the initial wave of everything shutting down (or at least accelerated it), can college football shutting down help break a political divide / debate that murkies everything related to COVID.  

[Balta1701]

2 hours ago, greg775 said:

Nebraska and Iowa want to play. The SEC wants to play. I truly think the Big 12 wants to play if their main medical consultants give the OK (I know how corrupt sports are and some will think this naive, but I think they still want to play if they got the OK from their medical people; and I think their medical people are the ones saying to play; or at least to this point have not ruled it out at all). The question is do any other people want to play? One more conference would allow for some football between the Big 12 and SEC teams plus Nebraska and Iowa.

Frost wants to play! I will concede as of today it sure looks like no spectator sports with fans at least until start of college basketball season in January (assuming no first semester play). Before that, only NFL to have fans?

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/29634231/scott-frost-says-nebraska-prepared-look-all-options-including-playing-big-ten

The first item on the Players list that they shared is universal, mandated health and safety procedures. If the athletes also have to go to classes, there’s no physically possible way to keep them away from exposure. It’d be like the Cardinals going to 12 casinos a week.

You can want to do something al you want, the players can want something to happen all they want, but a lack of responsibility by people and governments have created a situation where it doesn’t currently work.

[southsider2k5]

 

[Dick Allen]

Big Ten has pulled the plug. The rest will follow. If only people were more concerned with getting rid of the virus than their constitutional "right" to not wear masks and blow off saftety guidelines............

Edited August 11, 2020 by Dick Allen

[Kyyle23]

So it appears the "bury your head in the sand and do nothing" plan yet again proves to be the winner 

[greg775]

OK I have a question for the Big Ten: Why are your students returning to campus if it's unsafe to play sports? The football players actually would have been safer in their dorms and taking online classes than the normal student population crowded into the college town and in classrooms.

The regular students are going to have to sign forms resolving the university of all liability regarding COVID. You wait. If these schools aren't playing sports, there's NO REASON to keep these kids on campus. They will be even MORE AT RISK than the athletes.

Cmon. Send the kids home or tell 'em to stay home. On campus learning for colleges is RIDICULOUS if sports aren't allowed. UNSAFE!!

[Dick Allen]

13 minutes ago, greg775 said:

OK I have a question for the Big Ten: Why are your students returning to campus if it's unsafe to play sports? The football players actually would have been safer in their dorms and taking online classes than the normal student population crowded into the college town and in classrooms.

The regular students are going to have to sign forms resolving the university of all liability regarding COVID. You wait. If these schools aren't playing sports, there's NO REASON to keep these kids on campus. They will be even MORE AT RISK than the athletes.

Cmon. Send the kids home or tell 'em to stay home. On campus learning for colleges is RIDICULOUS if sports aren't allowed. UNSAFE!!

How do you socially distance playing football? You can as a student, but I don't know how many Big Ten universities are holding face to face classes. My niece goes to Michigan State and she is on line for the first semester.

[southsider2k5]

18 minutes ago, greg775 said:

OK I have a question for the Big Ten: Why are your students returning to campus if it's unsafe to play sports? The football players actually would have been safer in their dorms and taking online classes than the normal student population crowded into the college town and in classrooms.

The regular students are going to have to sign forms resolving the university of all liability regarding COVID. You wait. If these schools aren't playing sports, there's NO REASON to keep these kids on campus. They will be even MORE AT RISK than the athletes.

Cmon. Send the kids home or tell 'em to stay home. On campus learning for colleges is RIDICULOUS if sports aren't allowed. UNSAFE!!

Deal.

[southsider2k5]

 

[southsider2k5]

 

[Big Hurtin]

If anyone digs in, it will be the SEC.  The rest of the dominoes are falling.

[Balta1701]

37 minutes ago, greg775 said:

OK I have a question for the Big Ten: Why are your students returning to campus if it's unsafe to play sports? The football players actually would have been safer in their dorms and taking online classes than the normal student population crowded into the college town and in classrooms.

The regular students are going to have to sign forms resolving the university of all liability regarding COVID. You wait. If these schools aren't playing sports, there's NO REASON to keep these kids on campus. They will be even MORE AT RISK than the athletes.

Cmon. Send the kids home or tell 'em to stay home. On campus learning for colleges is RIDICULOUS if sports aren't allowed. UNSAFE!!

It...isn't safe. None of this is. We need to re-shut-down and get this under control where we can manage outbreaks, but no one will do that any more, we blew our shot in the spring. Some people needed haircuts and so we have this end result. 

[Balta1701]

Just now, Big Hurtin said:

If anyone digs in, it will be the SEC.  The rest of the dominoes are falling.

I think it's 50/50 that they will. If they dig in, Big 12 and ACC might go along with it.

A lot is going to come down, IMO, to what the university legal offices are saying. If they think they can get away with a couple dead students and have it not destroy the program (Maryland), then they'll push for it now.

[caulfield12]

Stick a fork in it.

The next big question is how long the NCAA BB season can push things back into January...we have to see what Oct/Nov brings first, in terms of the dreaded second wave of cold/flu season combined with Covid hospitalizations overwhelming health care systems.

And WH will likely be in limbo, and no longer actively addressing until late January.

[caulfield12]

1 minute ago, Balta1701 said:

I think it's 50/50 that they will. If they dig in, Big 12 and ACC might go along with it.

A lot is going to come down, IMO, to what the university legal offices are saying. If they think they can get away with a couple dead students and have it not destroy the program (Maryland), then they'll push for it now.

Of course, ACC, Big 12 and SEC are in predominantly states won by ... ???

Even NCAAFB has turned just as political as mask wearing or anti-vaxxing conspiracy theories.

[Balta1701]

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Of course, ACC, Big 12 and SEC are in predominantly states won by ... ???

Even NCAAFB has turned just as political as mask wearing or anti-vaxxing conspiracy theories.

And I guarantee you the governors and state reps are pushing hard for their teams to paly to show that everything's fine and ok.

[ptatc]

31 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

How do you socially distance playing football? You can as a student, but I don't know how many Big Ten universities are holding face to face classes. My niece goes to Michigan State and she is on line for the first semester.

Purdue is mostly face to face. Only a few online as of now.

[southsider2k5]

3 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:

And I guarantee you the governors and state reps are pushing hard for their teams to paly to show that everything's fine and ok.

We have seen a few times in Indiana already where school systems made a judgement to either shutdown fall sports and/or not have in-person schooling to start a year, only to quickly reverse it after a short period of time.  This is absolutely happening

[southsider2k5]

Just now, ptatc said:

Purdue is mostly face to face. Only a few online as of now.

Worth mention that Purdue's President is Mitch Daniels.

[Balta1701]

1 minute ago, ptatc said:

Purdue is mostly face to face. Only a few online as of now.

And who is Purdue's president?

[ptatc]

10 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Of course, ACC, Big 12 and SEC are in predominantly states won by ... ???

Even NCAAFB has turned just as political as mask wearing or anti-vaxxing conspiracy theories.

Mountain West just postponed all sports though the end of the year include the beginning of track, baseball and softball.

[greg775]

1 hour ago, Balta1701 said:

It...isn't safe. None of this is. We need to re-shut-down and get this under control where we can manage outbreaks, but no one will do that any more, we blew our shot in the spring. Some people needed haircuts and so we have this end result. 

Thanks for the potshot at me. Sad world. All civility is gone. Just hate.

Edited August 11, 2020 by greg775

[greg775]

1 hour ago, Dick Allen said:

How do you socially distance playing football? You can as a student, but I don't know how many Big Ten universities are holding face to face classes. My niece goes to Michigan State and she is on line for the first semester.

Does your niece return to campus to do the online work? Kansas is 80 percent online but you have to come to Lawrence which is ridiculous. They just want the money assured. As far as students social distancing. I'm not laughing at you, but have to laugh. Cmon. The frats and dorms will be holding covid-19 parties after hours. Kids don't take precautions on campus.

[Dick Allen]

1 minute ago, greg775 said:

Does your niece return to campus to do the online work? Kansas is 80 percent online but you have to come to Lawrence which is ridiculous. They just want the money assured. As far as students social distancing. I'm not laughing at you, but have to laugh. Cmon. The frats and dorms will be holding covid-19 parties after hours. Kids don't take precautions on campus.

No, but even if she did, it would be no different than staying home. You really think every football player would be on the straight and narrow? All it takes is one.