GreenSox Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) On 7/27/2020 at 2:50 AM, Dominikk85 said: It is obviously early and the twins have a monster offense but even before the season started the pen was not great and with the kopech opt out the back end of the rotation becomes a bit shaky. Would a trade make sense? Vaughn and madrigal should be off limits and you can't trade the draft guys yet but most other prospects like sheets, stiever, Rutherford, dunning and collins on the ml side should be available. Should that get you something that is a real upgrade? Trade Steiever for more broken down veteran pitchers? The last thing the Sox need is for Hahn to panic and put on a clown show like he did in 2016. Edited July 28, 2020 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 Trading for anything that is "win now" in a season that may be cancelled in a week is silly. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 I don't believe I would make any trades which goal is to help 2020 results. I'd be looking at this as a warm up for 2021. Hell, we don't know if we'll be playing in September. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 28, 2020 Share Posted July 28, 2020 (edited) Free agency for pitching. Just do it this offseason. Rebuild the staff. Edited July 28, 2020 by greg775 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 18 hours ago, GreenSox said: Trade Steiever for more broken down veteran pitchers? The last thing the Sox need is for Hahn to panic and put on a clown show like he did in 2016. Yeah, probably doesn't make sense to trade those prospects for mediocre veterans, giolito and cease just need to step it up or you try again next year. Still early and maybe the second turn of the rotation is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 I know its early but if at some point we decide to punt on this season, I believe there are several teams who would offer a 45-45+ talent for McCann. Notwithstanding injuries that might occur, a team like the Padres appear to be a fit and they have 4-5 interesting MI prospects in their minor league system. Similarly, McCann would be an upgrade for TB who also have several interesting MLrs, including Shane Baz and Shane McClanahan. Personally, I'd try to resign McCann but if unable to, there should be real trade value there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Flash said: I know its early but if at some point we decide to punt on this season, I believe there are several teams who would offer a 45-45+ talent for McCann. Notwithstanding injuries that might occur, a team like the Padres appear to be a fit and they have 4-5 interesting MI prospects in their minor league system. Similarly, McCann would be an upgrade for TB who also have several interesting MLrs, including Shane Baz and Shane McClanahan. Personally, I'd try to resign McCann but if unable to, there should be real trade value there. They already have Hedges and Mejia. Unless they're willing to trade Mejia's LH offensive potential and arm... doesn't quite seem like a good platoon split. Otoh, they definitely have concerns about Francisco's game~calling, framing, blocking pitches and overall leadership. They're expecting a playoff run as they bring up Gore and/or Patino. McCann and Hedges are both well-respected clubhouse guys. Edited July 29, 2020 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) I would have preferred to have punted on Grandal and went with All-Star McCann and prospect Collins at catcher and spent the money on another quality starter. At this point any trade depends on what another team wants in exchange for a proven starting pitcher. This is not a popular opinion, but I would not take any of our prospects off the table if they can coax a trade for a decent, durable starter from another team. Edited July 29, 2020 by tray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Sign Bauer this winter. That is all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 20 hours ago, ChiSox1917 said: What can they get straight up for leury? A bucket of fried chicken..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Flash said: I know its early but if at some point we decide to punt on this season, I believe there are several teams who would offer a 45-45+ talent for McCann. Notwithstanding injuries that might occur, a team like the Padres appear to be a fit and they have 4-5 interesting MI prospects in their minor league system. Similarly, McCann would be an upgrade for TB who also have several interesting MLrs, including Shane Baz and Shane McClanahan. Personally, I'd try to resign McCann but if unable to, there should be real trade value there. I don't think any team is giving up anything of even moderate interest for a half season rental in a season that may not even finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Danny. Salazar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, gusguyman said: I don't think any team is giving up anything of even moderate interest for a half season rental in a season that may not even finish. Would depend on what point of the season and a teams' playoff chances. Obviously if it looks as though the season is at risk, there will be no rental player activity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 7 hours ago, Flash said: I know its early but if at some point we decide to punt on this season, I believe there are several teams who would offer a 45-45+ talent for McCann. Notwithstanding injuries that might occur, a team like the Padres appear to be a fit and they have 4-5 interesting MI prospects in their minor league system. Similarly, McCann would be an upgrade for TB who also have several interesting MLrs, including Shane Baz and Shane McClanahan. Personally, I'd try to resign McCann but if unable to, there should be real trade value there. I see no reason to believe that teams are going to be willing to pay trade deadline prices in a season that might not even finish. In fact, they would be fools to do so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I see no reason to believe that teams are going to be willing to pay trade deadline prices in a season that might not even finish. In fact, they would be fools to do so. It would have to be a team like the Padres with surplus prospects...that it just itching to make a deep playoff run for the first time in many years. Trading Mejia for McCann seems quite possible, for example. Edited July 29, 2020 by caulfield12 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 It might be a better idea to extend McCann, trade Grandal and go with McCann and Collins. Hard for people to admit they were wring though.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: I see no reason to believe that teams are going to be willing to pay trade deadline prices in a season that might not even finish. In fact, they would be fools to do so. Respectfully disagree. A pennant is a pennant and if a team feels they are a cather or RH power bat away, McCann will be in play and command a decent return. This of course assumes reasonable risk of finishing the season. Obviously no one will pursue a rental if it looks like season will be ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 2 hours ago, Flash said: Respectfully disagree. A pennant is a pennant and if a team feels they are a cather or RH power bat away, McCann will be in play and command a decent return. This of course assumes reasonable risk of finishing the season. Obviously no one will pursue a rental if it looks like season will be ended. Literally half of one organization has covid and 2 teams aren't allowed to play right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: Literally half of one organization has covid and 2 teams aren't allowed to play right now. We'll see soon enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 18 hours ago, tray said: It might be a better idea to extend McCann, trade Grandal and go with McCann and Collins. Hard for people to admit they were wring though.. Early overreaction much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 man you guys have no patience and panic so easily. Trade for a pitcher when the season will likely not even end. We're 5 games deep with teams already having to post-pone games. Extend McCaan and trade Grandal? WUT!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Capital G said: man you guys have no patience and panic so easily. Trade for a pitcher when the season will likely not even end. We're 5 games deep with teams already having to post-pone games. Extend McCaan and trade Grandal? WUT!? You're telling someone not to panic while at the same time saying the season is likely to end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capital G Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: You're telling someone not to panic while at the same time saying the season is likely to end. You dont see the difference? Panic suggesting the team makes trades that could impact the future. Stating the season could end before completion due to a virus. Something that for a fact a lot of people thought could happen before the season even started. Edited July 30, 2020 by Capital G 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: You're telling someone not to panic while at the same time saying the season is likely to end. I mean, there's sort of this thing called a pandemic going on in the world... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 On 7/29/2020 at 10:02 AM, bmags said: Danny. Salazar. I can't believe nobody is into this. That no one has signed him means he's probably toast, but baseball has been wrong before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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