caulfield12 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) Nova, Santiago, Detwiler, Despaigne, Ruiz, Burr, Santana. Let’s GO! ”We can’t accurately assess the performance of Rick Hahn until at least the end of 2021 due to the plethora of injuries to strike the organization.” Checks list of starters for today, cringes at the name Frankie Montas yet again. Edited July 29, 2020 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 3 minutes ago, fathom said: I think that’s very possible, especially given the weird summer camp routines every pitcher had to deal with. This is my hope. I knew there would be a lot of pitching problems coming into this season, hopefully this is one of those aches and pains things, and not the TJS failing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 11 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: This is my hope. I knew there would be a lot of pitching problems coming into this season, hopefully this is one of those aches and pains things, and not the TJS failing. I was surprised we didn't see more arms opt out honestly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) I wrote a little something small about Lambert in a random blog piece today and he went on the IL like 3 minutes later. I'm sorry Jimmy, I mushed you: https://www.ecopolibbling.com/post/five-games-is-still-just-five-games " While I am a fan of their arm talent, they (being Lambert and Dunning) are both coming off Tommy John surgery and neither one has thrown 100 innings at AA combined. Lambert’s repertoire plays really well in the modern MLB game – he lives up in the zone with a + fastball that doesn’t have elite spin (2205 RPM) but has enough deception and velocity to get swinging strikes (17% Whiff Rate), and pairs it with an average to average+ curve ball that he keeps down, mostly away, in the zone and a change up that he has done a nice job keeping away from righties." Edited July 29, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: First, you can never have too much pitching. 2005 has resulted in a fifteen year curse. The negative side wins out today, the side that questions the very one-sided nature of being a White Sox fan Of course, thoughts and prayers, feel terrible for the guy...Burger, Rodon, Dunning, Giolito, now Lopez (the only one not to have had at least one major surgery entering 2020), Kopech, Cease, the list just goes on and on and on. That’s not even counting Eloy Jimenez. Micker Adolfo had the tools to be a superstar at one point in time (minus speed.) If it wasn’t for that World Series, we might be the “unluckiest/least fortunate” franchise in baseball. And if it wasn’t for the players acquired for Sale, Eaton and Q (and the Robert signing), Hahn would be out of a job and we’d be in the midst of a perma-rebuild. Trading one of the Top Ten players in baseball and a Top Ten MVP vote recipient don’t exactly help the cause. PS: Jared Mitchell and pretty much every Sox pitching prospect from 1998-2001 minus Buehrle and Fogg say hello. About five years ago, our primary niche advantage was keeping players healthy. That’s been turned on its head. The Sox remain what they are: A team with several electric, all-star everyday players and a pitching staff, that evidence suggests, is so average to poor it probably will prevent the team from being a playoff contender. Right now it's Keuchel, Kopech (on hold a year) and pray Cease and Giolito are sensational and Rodon is well above average. I've pretty much given up on Lopez as being anything possibly special. Also we can disagree but the bullpen IMO is not playoff caliber either. We shall see. We know this. We have stars in Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Tim, maybe Madrigal, Jose, McCann, Grandal and EE. Edited July 29, 2020 by greg775 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 34 minutes ago, greg775 said: The Sox remain what they are: A team with several electric, all-star everyday players and a pitching staff, that evidence suggests, is so average to poor it probably will prevent the team from being a playoff contender. Right now it's Keuchel, Kopech (on hold a year) and pray Cease and Giolito are sensational and Rodon is well above average. I've pretty much given up on Lopez as being anything possibly special. Also we can disagree but the bullpen IMO is not playoff caliber either. We shall see. We know this. We have stars in Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Tim, maybe Madrigal, Jose, McCann, Grandal and EE. Vaughn should be a beast of a hitting machine, too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Results of a screwed up spring training regimen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted July 29, 2020 Author Share Posted July 29, 2020 58 minutes ago, greg775 said: The Sox remain what they are: A team with several electric, all-star everyday players and a pitching staff, that evidence suggests, is so average to poor it probably will prevent the team from being a playoff contender. Right now it's Keuchel, Kopech (on hold a year) and pray Cease and Giolito are sensational and Rodon is well above average. I've pretty much given up on Lopez as being anything possibly special. Also we can disagree but the bullpen IMO is not playoff caliber either. We shall see. We know this. We have stars in Eloy, Robert, Moncada, Tim, maybe Madrigal, Jose, McCann, Grandal and EE. I actually... *gulp*... agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, caulfield12 said: Recovery (full or even better) rate is roughly 60% for second compared to 80% for initial, but the number of starting pitchers in MLB history who have thrown 500+ innings after two surgeries/revisions (over the remainder of their careers) can be fully counted on less than two hands. Jace Fry and Daniel Hudson would be two examples in that particular category. The current literature is about 89% return to previously level of play for the first reconstruction. There hasn't been much written on the second one. i;m not sure where you found those numbers but I'm surprised they are that high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, fathom said: I think that’s very possible, especially given the weird summer camp routines every pitcher had to deal with. That's the hope but there are very few reasons why a forearm strain occurs. Most aren't good especially for a previous UCL injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 6 minutes ago, elrockinMT said: Results of a screwed up spring training regimen Not if its a true UCL injury. A true muscle issue, I'll buy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, soxfan49 said: muthafuckasonufabichgotdamnit Edited July 29, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 55 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: Vaughn should be a beast of a hitting machine, too... That's right. Agreed on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Ugh... I feel for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Lambert's brother with Rockies just went down with TJS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 Please let this season end already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted July 29, 2020 Share Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, oldsox said: Lambert's brother with Rockies just went down with TJS. Wow.. Burdi brothers all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 15 hours ago, SoxAce said: Wow.. Burdi brothers all over again. Speaking of Burdi seems to me it's doubtful if he is feeling 100% too. If he was, I see no reason why he wouldn't be here instead of Matt Foster. Burdi pitched 4 pretty good innings in the 1st spring training then was nowhere to be found in summer camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 (edited) Is Burdi even in Schaumburg? edit: yes he is, answered my own question. Edited July 30, 2020 by ChiSox59 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 3 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Speaking of Burdi seems to me it's doubtful if he is feeling 100% too. If he was, I see no reason why he wouldn't be here instead of Matt Foster. Burdi pitched 4 pretty good innings in the 1st spring training then was nowhere to be found in summer camp. This is quite odd. The MPFL reconstruction he had seemed rehabed well because of that outing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince34 Posted July 30, 2020 Share Posted July 30, 2020 Bring back HERM!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 Was there ever any update on lambert when he was shifted to 45 day IL? Do we know anything other than "forearm strain"? Surgery necessary? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 24, 2020 Share Posted August 24, 2020 5 minutes ago, ChiSox59 said: Was there ever any update on lambert when he was shifted to 45 day IL? Do we know anything other than "forearm strain"? Surgery necessary? conservative approach which will probably lead to TJ is my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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