CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:02 PM, fathom said: In the fun to dream category, Clevinger and Bauer are super close. It would only help the Sox if they go after Bauer this offseason. Expand Friends and family plan Part Deux ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 4:57 PM, fathom said: Collins Expand That’s been thoughts the entire time: Stiever, Adolfo, & Collins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I hope we all recall that CLE still needs to pay up for the IOU they gave us to take Alonso. So time to pay the piper “Cleveland”, we’ll take clevinger and you get back Engel...MAYBE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:02 PM, Chicago White Sox said: It’s more about the intra-division aspect of it and the fact Cleveland’s pitching lab is amongst the best in baseball. It’s terrifying to think what they could do with that kind of arm and the risk it posies for the second half of our window. Expand With what offense though? Lindor will be gone and Santana is old. I feel like their pitching will always be good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michelangelosmonkey Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 4:47 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: That's what I thought but I always ask to make sure. Expand Ohmigosh...it was a joke because everyone is so angry about what happened the last time we thew in a no-name wildcard in a trade for an older pitcher. I mean honestly the likelihood of Elijiah being the best player in baseball in three years is about as likely as it was for his brother. It's baseball...weird things happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I would do Kopech for Clevinger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:05 PM, bmags said: I hope we all recall that CLE still needs to pay up for the IOU they gave us to take Alonso. So time to pay the piper “Cleveland”, we’ll take clevinger and you get back Engel...MAYBE Expand I did love that Bob starts off the trade proposal by listing Engel first. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:02 PM, Chicago White Sox said: It’s more about the intra-division aspect of it and the fact Cleveland’s pitching lab is amongst the best in baseball. It’s terrifying to think what they could do with that kind of arm and the risk it posies for the second half of our window. Expand Not real worried about the 2nd half of the window if Clevinger, Gio, Keuchel , Cease, Dunning for the 1st half . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Clevinger won't be dealt here, too many other teams out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I do have some sympathy for how terrible it must be to be a CLE fan despite the orgs competence the last 30 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:08 PM, BigHurt3515 said: Clevinger won't be dealt here, too many other teams out there Expand Maybe the Indians view Kopech as the best pitching prospect in the sport? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:05 PM, fathom said: With what offense though? Lindor will be gone and Santana is old. I feel like their pitching will always be good. Expand Also if it’s not kopech it will be some other mid round dude they turn into Shane Bieber. They have all those 17 year olds they’ve drafted that will eventually arrive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:08 PM, fathom said: Maybe the Indians view Kopech as the best pitching prospect in the sport? Expand If so then I really don't want to deal him. They know their pitching. I would really like to get Clevinger though. He's been fantastic. On 8/30/2020 at 5:08 PM, bmags said: I do have some sympathy for how terrible it must be to be a CLE fan despite the orgs competence the last 30 years Expand If they want big leaguers we don't really match then, unless they want Collins or McCann. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:10 PM, bmags said: Also if it’s not kopech it will be some other mid round dude they turn into Shane Bieber. They have all those 17 year olds they’ve drafted that will eventually arrive Expand Can we steal some of their pitching scouting and development employees? We're not bad at it but starting with Kluber they've been somethin' else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:10 PM, almagest said: If so then I really don't want to deal him. They know their pitching. I would really like to get Clevinger though. He's been fantastic. If they want big leaguers we don't really match then, unless they want Collins or McCann. Expand Or Vaughn and maybe they consider him ready. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:10 PM, almagest said: If so then I really don't want to deal him. They know their pitching. I would really like to get Clevinger though. He's been fantastic. If they want big leaguers we don't really match then, unless they want Collins or McCann. Expand Who is going to offer compelling big leaguers? The point of trades is to improve, not many have surplus MLB talent. Thats stuff that cLE are saying to not be embarrassed they are in first and firesaling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Clevinger is a good pitcher but Kopech will win multiple Cy Youngs. Please don’t get fleeced like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Baron Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:00 PM, soxfan49 said: It's probably wrong. Only 2 teams are interested? Doubtful Expand Interested no. Continuing negotiations? Possible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Someone I’d still be down for but not knowing the price at all is Musgrove. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, bmags said: Who is going to offer compelling big leaguers? The point of trades is to improve, not many have surplus MLB talent. Thats stuff that cLE are saying to not be embarrassed they are in first and firesaling Expand Probably, but if there's a headliner they want blocked by someone else that could make sense. Also I assume Cleveland is looking to trade Clevinger because of the team drama but maybe that's just an excuse. On 8/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, Sarava said: Or Vaughn and maybe they consider him ready. Expand Could be. They do need hitting. I think this would be a mistake though. I think Vaughn is Goldschmidt Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:16 PM, bmags said: Someone I’d still be down for but not knowing the price at all is Musgrove. Expand He's hurt with triceps inflammation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I'm sorry but you cannot trade Kopech or Vaughn to the Indians. You cannot do that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:19 PM, CWSpalehoseCWS said: He's hurt with triceps inflammation. Expand I thought he was just activated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 On 8/30/2020 at 5:13 PM, sin city sox fan said: Clevinger is a good pitcher but Kopech will win multiple Cy Youngs. Please don’t get fleeced like this. Expand Multiple CY's? We should be happy if he pitches 2 consecutive seasons 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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