iWiN4PreP Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: What dis bob https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1300112361546608641 holy shit, yes please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: What dis bob https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1300112361546608641 Sounds like someone’s fever dream. Never going to happen. They’ll want Robert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Stiever can definitely go. If they can keep Kopech and Dunning and get Lynn you solve this and next season. Let's hope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 article mentions kopech and........ adam engel. ok done 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 That makes me think they’re dangling Kopech for controllable pitching. I don’t blame them one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, bmags said: What dis bob https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1300112361546608641 Not wanting to give up Kopech. Honestly, I want us to stand pat and address pitching and OF in free agency. We have some good prospects but are not deep. We can’t trade away the farm to enhance our chances of winning a title in a year that would always have an asterisk next to it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, Tony said: Oh, ok Is Bob a day drinker? This seems absolutely crazy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Cleve-dog for Kopech / Collins / Engel do you make the deal? i do. big fan of cleve dog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Cleveland has to get rid of him at this point. No Kopech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, bmags said: What dis bob https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/1300112361546608641 Wow...what a fucking crazy trade that would be. I’m honestly not sure how I would feel about giving Kopech to the Indians and having to face him for the next half decade, but it definitely would improve our chances significantly for 2020 to 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, sin city sox fan said: Not wanting to give up Kopech. Honestly, I want us to stand pat and address pitching and OF in free agency. We have some good prospects but are not deep. We can’t trade away the farm to enhance our chances of winning a title in a year that would always have an asterisk next to it. You’d be getting Clevinger for two full seasons, and he’s basically as good as what you would hope Kopech turns into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SoxBlanco said: How about Stiever, Adolfo, and Beard for Lynn? Is that not enough? I think we’d have to give up a much better 3rd piece than Beard to have any chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Wow...what a fucking crazy trade that would be. I’m honestly not sure how I would feel about giving Kopech to the Indians and having to face him for the next half decade, but it definitely would improve our chances significantly for 2020 to 2022. Just keep this in mind....the Sox know more about Kopech’s physical/mental health than anyone. If they are willing to trade him, then I support it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I think I would do it too, but the thought of a maximized version of Kopech on the Indians is kind of terrifying. Is there a better team in baseball at developing pitchers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) edit: looks like 2 years, not 1. nah I keep kopech Edited August 30, 2020 by joesaiditstrue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I think we’d have to give up a much better 3rd piece than Beard to have any chance. Collins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sin city sox fan Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: You’d be getting Clevinger for two full seasons, and he’s basically as good as what you would hope Kopech turns into. But you could have Kopech for 6+. I want a dynasty...lnoypt to have a good lineup but no pitching 3 years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: That makes me think they’re dangling Kopech for controllable pitching. I don’t blame them one bit. You me and Flash and not many others were fine with that. Maybe 2 much for Lynn but possible for a controlled piece. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Baron said: Sounds like someone’s fever dream. Never going to happen. They’ll want Robert. Yeah, they'd want the best prospect and now a .900 OPS major leaguer with a HOF ceiling for Mike Clevenger. Sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, fathom said: That makes me think they’re dangling Kopech for controllable pitching. I don’t blame them one bit. Kopech not pitching for two plus years does fuck us over to some extent, as we’ll likely have to monitor his innings closely for 2021 & 2022 whole he rebuilds arm strength. That’s not ideal for a team that should be full steam ahead next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, Baron said: It’s probably right It's probably wrong. Only 2 teams are interested? Doubtful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 In the fun to dream category, Clevinger and Bauer are super close. It would only help the Sox if they go after Bauer this offseason. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Just keep this in mind....the Sox know more about Kopech’s physical/mental health than anyone. If they are willing to trade him, then I support it. It’s more about the intra-division aspect of it and the fact Cleveland’s pitching lab is amongst the best in baseball. It’s terrifying to think what they could do with that kind of arm and the risk it posies for the second half of our window. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, fathom said: In the fun to dream category, Clevinger and Bauer are super close. It would only help the Sox if they go after Bauer this offseason. Off topic, but Bauer has said that he's never going to sign a long-term deal and he'll only do 1 year deals as a free agent in perpetuity until he retires. I am fascinated to see if he ends up going through with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, TomPickle said: I think I would do it too, but the thought of a maximized version of Kopech on the Indians is kind of terrifying. Is there a better team in baseball at developing pitchers? My thoughts exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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