elrockinMT Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Carson was released by the Tigers and claimed by the Pirates today. How far the mighty have fallen. Good luck Carson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 This one was not mighty 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vote4Pedro Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Hopefully he pitches on Tuesday 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Maybe he should try left field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Coop couldn't fix him. I see Covey is with the BoSox status unknown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 If a team was smart they would try to stretch him back out so that he could get the reps he needs to find his form again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 I looked up his minor league numbers and he wasn't even good in any of the higher levels. I am not sure he even deserved to make it to the majors let alone get so many chances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 He may not get another shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On the bright side, he can look forward to his future career in Asia or Mexico. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Getting something out Ross Detwiler (a similar first round burnout) has alleviated some of the Fulmer pain for me. At least we're getting some good work from Ross out of the pen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: If a team was smart they would try to stretch him back out so that he could get the reps he needs to find his form again. I think he found his form and perfected it. I said it years ago - he is a total stiff. People talk about his stuff but he never showed anything but pure crap stuff at the major league level. People can say it was his command and yes that was bad but so was his stuff. If it weren’t for the fact he was an Uber high draft pick he would never get the run he had. Whatever he had in college hasn’t exsisted in years. If he is going to do anything, he needs to forget whatever adjustments Sox made and go back to his college form and rebuild what he used to do (even if it increases his injury risk) and see if he can find his old stuff. Without that he is a guy with an A+ attitude and D stuff and command. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 3 hours ago, JuliusO1274 said: I looked up his minor league numbers and he wasn't even good in any of the higher levels. I am not sure he even deserved to make it to the majors let alone get so many chances. This - and his stuff sucked every since he made his adjustments or he had something else happen between being drafted and getting to the Sox org. Just watch his college highlights and pitches and let me know when he ever threw anything with that type of stuff with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 so what players from that draft did we pass over for fulmer in the first rd that are having success? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: so what players from that draft did we pass over for fulmer in the first rd that are having success? That is a stupid excercise because every team passes players that have success, that happens when hundreds of players are drafted. Sure they could have drafted happ (9) or buehler (24) but they just as well could have drafted dillion tate (4), Cornelius Randolph (10) or garrett (not Forrest:)) Whitley (13). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 7 hours ago, Soxfest said: He may not get another shot He literally got claimed by the first team that had a chance. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 4 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: I think he found his form and perfected it. I said it years ago - he is a total stiff. People talk about his stuff but he never showed anything but pure crap stuff at the major league level. People can say it was his command and yes that was bad but so was his stuff. If it weren’t for the fact he was an Uber high draft pick he would never get the run he had. Whatever he had in college hasn’t exsisted in years. If he is going to do anything, he needs to forget whatever adjustments Sox made and go back to his college form and rebuild what he used to do (even if it increases his injury risk) and see if he can find his old stuff. Without that he is a guy with an A+ attitude and D stuff and command. Part of it is the quality of the hitters. Go back and look at college highlights. His stuff moves so much that the college hitters swung at pitches way out of the zone. The problem is his pitches still do that but ashe moved up the levels the hitters got better and just dont swing at the pitches. He went to driveline and they straightened him out some but when he did that his stuff was very hittable. He never found that middle ground of the pitches moving but not enough to fly way out of the zone. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 Lets face it, Fullmer is not very good at the game of baseball. Maybe he can go on to a career in whatever his chosen major in college was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Carson DFA'd again before even throwing a pitch for the Bucs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I think that could be the end of it, maybe he gets a shot in Korea or Japan. I think it was a big mistake trying to change the delivery. Maybe his body would have broken down but maybe he could have been a good reliever with that delivery. Really 9 out of 10 times delivery changes don't work because the body was used to that for a decade plus. I would never do delivery changes, either you just let the guy pitch with that (like sale) or you don't draft wacky deliveries in the first place if you don't like them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 I never understood why the White Sox kept bringing him up from the minors. He couldn't get anybody out in the minors. He didn't deserve to be brought up to the majors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 23 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I think that could be the end of it, maybe he gets a shot in Korea or Japan. I think it was a big mistake trying to change the delivery. Maybe his body would have broken down but maybe he could have been a good reliever with that delivery. Really 9 out of 10 times delivery changes don't work because the body was used to that for a decade plus. I would never do delivery changes, either you just let the guy pitch with that (like sale) or you don't draft wacky deliveries in the first place if you don't like them. Ditto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gusguyman Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 49 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I think that could be the end of it, maybe he gets a shot in Korea or Japan. I think it was a big mistake trying to change the delivery. Maybe his body would have broken down but maybe he could have been a good reliever with that delivery. Really 9 out of 10 times delivery changes don't work because the body was used to that for a decade plus. I would never do delivery changes, either you just let the guy pitch with that (like sale) or you don't draft wacky deliveries in the first place if you don't like them. Ok maybe Fulmer is halfway decent if you never do delivery changes, but Giolito is also the worst pitcher in the league, if he's even still in it. It's baseball, the only blanket statement that isn't dumb is that blanket statements are dumb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 Yes, there are rare cases when a delivery change works. Halladay did that too and became great. But it feels most of the time a player does that he gets hurt or performs worse. Verlander also supposedly had a new super healthy pitching motion and he got hurt quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted September 2, 2020 Share Posted September 2, 2020 On 8/24/2020 at 9:37 PM, JuliusO1274 said: I looked up his minor league numbers and he wasn't even good in any of the higher levels. I am not sure he even deserved to make it to the majors let alone get so many chances. I wonder if the way the Sox handled him had any major impact on his development 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Orioles just grabbed him. Carson might not make the Hall of Fame, but his suitcase will. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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