Heads22 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 That defensive outfield late in games isn’t something I hate. My concern is this franchise always has a way of making this become Dyson starting in left field after Eloy comes down with the bends or something stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) To put into perspective how good of a baserunner Dyson is; since he entered the league, he is the 4th most valuable baserunner in baseball. Impressive... but even more absurd is that he's the 4th most valuable but he has HALF as many PA's as the guy in 1st and 3rd. He has 600 fewer PA's than Billy Hamilton who ranks second. On a rate basis, Dyson is the 3rd best base runner in baseball in the last 60 years. He's one of the only base runners you'd ever trade for. Edited August 28, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Has to be it. Yup, it's from last class, not the Norge Vera/Cespedes class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, Quin said: Yup, it's from last class, not the Norge Vera/Cespedes class. Yeah, I thought that much because I knew for a fact you cannot trade pool money for the next two classes. I just found it odd it was traded from this years class, when I assumed this years class was already completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySox Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, wegner said: Is the extra inning rule of a man on 2nd to start the inning effective in the playoffs as well this year? Almost think that would hurt his value if it was, because his value is his ability to get you second base so it's a good thing that's not a post season rule. If he's already there, there's plenty of guys who can go 2nd to home on a good jump. His ability is to get 2nd base for you no matter what. Will never forget the Royals calling up Jarrod to just be a pinch runner and it ended up getting them a huge run. Edited August 28, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 basically we are just paying dyson. That's the return to the pirates who are probably stripping copper out of their building to raise extra cash at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, DirtySox said: Yep. Think Terrance Gore (where is that guy?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, bmags said: basically we are just paying dyson. That's the return to the pirates who are probably stripping copper out of their building to raise extra cash at this point. Read the poor lead scout who signed Gregory Polanco today in the Athletic state that he feels bad because he thinks the Pirates ruined Polanco and destroyed his elite game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Yep. Think Terrance Gore (where is that guy?). Jarrod Dyson was the original Terrance Gore; no idea how Sox fans don't remember this. It just turned out that Dyson ended up being a great defender too so he got starting spots as a below average bat. Edited August 28, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 This is for playoff game ending defense. Dyson, Robert, and Engel. Dyson also helped win playoff games stealing bases if I'm not mistaken, but maybe I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Jarrod Dyson was the original Terrance Gore; no idea how Sox fans don't remember this. It just turned out that Dyson ended up being a great defender too so he got starting spots as a below average bat. Oh I know. Just that Terrance Gore has been picked up by playoff bounds teams it seems like towards end of year last few years. Edited August 28, 2020 by soxfan2014 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: Oh I know. Just that Terrance Gore has been picked up by playoff bounds teams it seems like towards end of year last few years. Yeah, Gore has more raw speed than Dyson but he's not quite as good of a baserunner or base stealer as Dyson. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 (edited) He's a far better pinch runner than Goins, and if you get to extra innings, pinch runners have even more value. Edited August 28, 2020 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 I can't remember but was it announced that the extra inning rule would be in effect in playoffs? I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Not that I had much hope, but I would say this rules out Leury from coming back at all this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: I can't remember but was it announced that the extra inning rule would be in effect in playoffs? I hope not. It's not. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 7 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: This is for playoff game ending defense. Dyson, Robert, and Engel. Dyson also helped win playoff games stealing bases if I'm not mistaken, but maybe I am. Where have I heard this take before???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 So essentially we gave up money we could have spent in Latin America, in a period that is already dried up, for the right to pay the best pinch runner in baseball for the rest of the season. There really isn't a downside to this. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 And in the 8th and 9th inning with a lead, the Sox can have an OF of Dyson, Robert, and Engel. No one matches it. If the rosters were 26, I wouldn't want Dyson, but 28, he does serve a purpose as long as Ricky doesn't fall in love with him. But even then, with the Sox current roster, it would be very hard for Ricky to play him too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: It's not. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 28, 2020 Author Share Posted August 28, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: So essentially we gave up money we could have spent in Latin America, in a period that is already dried up, for the right to pay the best pinch runner in baseball for the rest of the season. There really isn't a downside to this. He's also still a very good defender; although his defense won't play up as much in LF because his arm is a noodle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asindc Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 42 minutes ago, daggins said: Why do they keep doing this??? Keep doing what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, TomPickle said: Not that I had much hope, but I would say this rules out Leury from coming back at all this season. my first thought as well. I'm still a little nervous about TA going down most. Jose Iglesias whom I wanted as our UTIL guy and I think we didn't have a shot at because he wanted to be a starter is having a great year in Baltimore. It sucks not having a way to get players after next week, but I wish we had a better backup to TA. (don't tell me Yolmer.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 28, 2020 Share Posted August 28, 2020 Just now, Look at Ray Ray Run said: He's also still a very good defender; although his defense won't play up as much in LF because his arm is a noodle. Stone definitely raved about his D while PIttsburgh was here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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