Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 The Indians & Sox being tied for 1st place at the deadline and making a blockbuster trade would be historic. I still think the Clevinger rumor is a plant to drive leverage for some other deal, but man would it be crazy if it actually went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Soxsi75 said: How long would we be in control of Clevinger's contract? Through 2022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Bobby boy again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Through 2022 You think that's long enough? I don't want him walking after only that short a time and then Kopech haunt us for years in our division. If this happens, they better make Clevinger haunt Cleveland for years in the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Orlando said: Bobby boy again Yeah, fresh tweet from Nightengale. He has to be pushing this narrative for someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, fathom said: Wouldn’t even trade him for Tatis given no extension and positional need on the Sox Acuna basically the closest. But yeah...at this point hard to say why even though Acuna May be poised to be a bit better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Soxsi75 said: You think that's long enough? I don't want him walking after only that short a time and then Kopech haunt us for years in our division. If this happens, they better make Clevinger haunt Cleveland for years in the division. Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Yeah, fresh tweet from Nightengale. He has to be pushing this narrative for someone. Especially when he feels “compelled” to write a full article on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Olney saying Cleveland is dead set on moving Clevinger fyi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Especially when he feels “compelled” to write a full article on it. We have multiple reporters saying they are talking, including rosenthal. Doesn’t mean it happens but clearly it isn’t made up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen. I hate to say this.....because it has been exciting......but this year truthfully doesn't really matter. This is one big preseason. 60 games, ridiculously uneven schedule, 7 inning doubleheaders, starting with a man on second in extra innings.... I hope they win as much as possible this year......but no matter what happens there will be a TRIPLE asterisk next to this season. I'm looking for the White Sox to be a powerhouse NEXT year. And if Clevinger then is only here two years?......I agree with you, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it either. I can see good and bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Not sure how I would feel about such a trade to be honest, but that deal really helps us this year and for the next two. It would definitely put a lot of pressure on Crotchett and/or Kelley to develop into TOR starters as we’d lose Clevinger after the 2022 season & Giolito after the 2023 season. I’d definitely prefer if you can get him a quantity based package, but that remains to be seen. It’s so hard to time starting pitching with contending. FA would be great, but we saw how even with Wheeler having the top offer didn’t guarantee getting them. Next years FA class kinda sucks, and we don’t know how the Sox will fare in a bidding war with Reinsdorf. Clevinger being available is about as good as we’ll find, and we are absolutely now contenders. We need to make sure we maximize what we know now and not be so concerned about 2025. We have 5 years to figure that out and draft/sign guys to prepare. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, Soxsi75 said: I hate to say this.....because it has been exciting......but this year truthfully doesn't really matter. This is one big preseason. 60 games, ridiculously uneven schedule, 7 inning doubleheaders, starting with a man on second in extra innings.... I hope they win as much as possible this year......but no matter what happens there will be a TRIPLE asterisk next to this season. I'm looking for the White Sox to be a powerhouse NEXT year. And if Clevinger then is only here two years?......I agree with you, I'm not sure how I'd feel about it either. I can see good and bad. Think it’s time sox fans stop getting as excited about counting contract years and start thinking about making each of the next five years as close to guaranteed playoffs as possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 I prefer Plesac. Perhaps ReyLo plus Collins or something like that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Rangers get Kopech and Flores Indians get Gallo Sox get Clevinger If it happened, that's my guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 if we deal kopech + to Cleveland... if you guys thought I was overly reactionary and obnoxious in game threads, you might have to put me in time out for this shit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxsi75 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Just now, bmags said: Think it’s time sox fans stop getting as excited about counting contract years and start thinking about making each of the next five years as close to guaranteed playoffs as possible. I agree if Clevinger will be here 5 years. But if he walks in 2 and Kopech is haunting us after that, then we aren't guaranteeing the playoffs for 5 years. We'd be actually hurting ourselves. That's what makes this tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boopa1219 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Padres made another deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 With how good Cleveland is with pitchers, Kopech might as well be Jacob deGrom for the next 5 years with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 7 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Rangers get Kopech and Flores Indians get Gallo Sox get Clevinger If it happened, that's my guess. Indians gotta get something more here but guessing you are talking main oueces Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 (edited) Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? Edited August 30, 2020 by SouthWallace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: Olney saying Cleveland is dead set on moving Clevinger fyi No surprise. Only reason they brought him back was to show he was healthy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 30, 2020 Author Share Posted August 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? Yes. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScootsMcGoots Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, SouthWallace said: Is a soon to be 30 year old Clevinger with only 2 years of control left worth Kopech++? No 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 30, 2020 Share Posted August 30, 2020 Clevinger to Padres is the rumor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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