Vulture Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Cease has the arm and talent to do that. But he never will if you don't pitch him. I don't think anyone is advocating taking him out of the regular rotation. This is pretty much a strawman argument. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Seriously, the idea that we should run the franchise on the short sighted opinions of internet posters overreacting on a message board in a moment of bad play is about as dumb of a thing that the White Sox could do. I could give a crap less about the "why didn't we trade for another pitcher crowd". The Sox undertook the rebuild for a reason. The worst possible thing would be to pull up short 10 yards short of the finish line because fans want to make a splash now. Yes trading for Lynn would total blow up everything. Glad we could iron that out. Edited August 31, 2020 by Baron 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Vulture said: It isn't the lack of experience that is Cease's issue here, its his lack of control of his mechanics. I'd rather send Dunning out there and he obviously has less experience He isn't going to get mechanics by getting benched. Lucas Giolito needed to be the worst pitcher in baseball to get through figuring it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: You'll notice...Cease pitched in order for Cease to get into trouble. Does this apply to bullpen too? Should Burdi be our closer now so that he gets the experience? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, NotHahn said: Sox takes'hot take. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, bmags said: Does this apply to bullpen too? Should Burdi be our closer now so that he gets the experience? Am I the the only who noticed that RR has been using him in higher leverage situations the last week? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, NotHahn said: I’ll believe it when I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: Does this apply to bullpen too? Should Burdi be our closer now so that he gets the experience? If he's on the playoff roster then it would be intelligent to get him into a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: He isn't going to get mechanics by getting benched. Lucas Giolito needed to be the worst pitcher in baseball to get through figuring it out. No one is benching him for the rest of the regular season if we add a starter though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, southsider2k5 said: Am I the the only who noticed that RR has been using him in higher leverage situations the last week? Unfortunately, I noticed too. Thought it was weird that we'd go to arguably our worst reliever because he's young, but not give the superior Heuer/Foster the same chances Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, soxfan2014 said: No one is benching him for the rest of the regular season if we add a starter though. They want to see him pitch vs Stanton because he missed the home run derby this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: If he's on the playoff roster then it would be intelligent to get him into a game. I think it's a much better idea to let Robert, Eloy, Moncada, TA, Madrigal, Gio, Cooper, Bummer as many playoff games as possible this year rather than making sure Burdi gets 10 pitches if he hasn't shown he can hang in preseason unless absolutely necessary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Unfortunately, I noticed too. Thought it was weird that we'd go to arguably our worst reliever because he's young, but not give the superior Heuer/Foster the same chances Detweiler also kinda ran over Renteria's dog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Bob Sacamano Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Trading for Lynn and running out Giolito, Keuchel, Lynn, Cease, Dunning and then using the first 3 and then whever pitches the best out of Cease and Dunning is great. Plus health and injuries may come into play. Having these 5 the rest of the way is legit as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 3 minutes ago, NotHahn said: That would be ok. Collins, Heuer and Stiever preserves the top core talents. Allows Sox to offer McCann something if he doesn't like offers next year. Gives us 3 pitching studs this year and next year, with Dunning 4 and Cease 5 is a great rotation for the rest of the year. 2 Young guys will have to compete with Kopech for the last 3 spots next spring. Cease particularly will need to show improvement to keep his spot. Low salary for Lynn next year gets the OK from JR since RH likely promised no big FA pitching acquisitions in the offseason in exchange. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Heuer was caught midair and is back on the airplane, for now! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Baron said: The $1 bet I made at +50000 for Marlins to win the division isn't as crazy now thanks to this short season, ha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Unfortunately, I noticed too. Thought it was weird that we'd go to arguably our worst reliever because he's young, but not give the superior Heuer/Foster the same chances Heuer had been getting some key set up roles until this weekend. Of course that could be because of the whole trade rumor thing, but he had been working into the slot right before Marshall coming out of the pen until a couple of days ago. Foster they originally seemed to be saving for longer relief/opener work, though he did some later work over the weekend. He pitched the 7th inning in a one run game with the Cubs, the 6th in one run game against KC, and the 10th in a tie game yesterday. Both of these guys are getting higher leverage rides as the season has gone on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 Can't imagine being a mets fan if the marlins hop over you this year (or Phils, but mets if funnier to me for some reason) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, bmags said: Can't imagine being a mets fan if the marlins hop over you this year (or Phils, but mets if funnier to me for some reason) Phillies and Bryce Harper is funnier to me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The Blue Jays got Robbie Ray and $300k for a guy similar to Jace Fry. Huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: No one is benching him for the rest of the regular season if we add a starter though. There are people talking about him not pitching in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Heuer had been getting some key set up roles until this weekend. Of course that could be because of the whole trade rumor thing, but he had been working into the slot right before Marshall coming out of the pen until a couple of days ago. Foster they originally seemed to be saving for longer relief/opener work, though he did some later work over the weekend. He pitched the 7th inning in a one run game with the Cubs, the 6th in one run game against KC, and the 10th in a tie game yesterday. Both of these guys are getting higher leverage rides as the season has gone on. Foster had a higher leverage appearance on Saturday as well. I think they were really trying to give him a day off yesterday. It didn't work out but he got a win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, soxfan2014 said: The $1 bet I made at +50000 for Marlins to win the division isn't as crazy now thanks to this short season, ha. That means you win $500 on one dollar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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