skooch Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 If Heuer is being dealt that means there's most likely a SP coming back in return. The plan could be Rodon and Lopez to the pen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:06 AM, maxjusttyped said: My first thought was the Diamondbacks because of Bradley. If Heuer is to be traded, I think that adds high leverage reliever to the list of the Sox needs. Expand Heuer + other stuff for Marte + Bradley? Still think whatever deal Cishek is referring to is for a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:02 AM, wegner said: Sorry if I'm missing something but I get the Rangers trading Lynn but why would the Brewers trade Woodruff, a guy with lots of control left unless it was a deal they couldn't refuse? Expand The Brewers have the third lowest position player fWAR in baseball this year. They have a stars and scrubs thing going on that's not too dissimilar from what the White Sox were doing before they started the rebuild in 2016. The Brewers have just happened to be more successful than the White Sox ever were doing that. They probably are looking for more of a retool than a rebuild like the Sox had to do. I don't really know what the Sox have to offer on the position player side other than Vaughn and I would be pretty bummed to see him be traded even for someone as good as Woodruff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:08 AM, skooch said: If Heuer is being dealt that means there's most likely a SP coming back in return. The plan could be Rodon and Lopez to the pen. Expand I always forget Rodon is on this team tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 If the Brewers are trading Woodruff, they should demand Vaughn IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:07 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Kudos to @fathom on calling out Heuer being a legit trade chip during today’s game. I thought it seemed crazy, but totally seems legit now. Expand What if fathom is Not Steve Cishek??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:10 AM, Soxnfins said: I always forget Rodon is on this team tbh Expand That's because he is only on the team for like 2 weeks at a time. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:03 AM, Chicago White Sox said: I think it’s got to be something bolder than Gausman. Expand Hope so... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:10 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Heuer + other stuff for Marte + Bradley? Still think whatever deal Cishek is referring to is for a starter. Expand Maybe. Add Kopech and Collins and maybe it’s all that stuff for Gallen and Marte? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:10 AM, TomPickle said: The Brewers have the third lowest position player fWAR in baseball this year. They have a stars and scrubs thing going on that's not too dissimilar from what the White Sox were doing before they started the rebuild in 2016. The Brewers have just happened to be more successful than the White Sox ever were doing that. They probably are looking for more of a retool than a rebuild like the Sox had to do. I don't really know what the Sox have to offer on the position player side other than Vaughn and I would be pretty bummed to see him be traded even for someone as good as Woodruff. Expand Well that one rando said Kopech + Vaughn for Woodruff + Hader. If you throw in Heuer, Collins, and some other pieces (Adolfo, Lopez) is that enough? Would we want to make that trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:12 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: What if fathom is Not Steve Cishek??? Expand ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:10 AM, Soxnfins said: I always forget Rodon is on this team tbh Expand Why wouldn’t you? He shows up, he gets hurt, he stays hurt, everyone gets super hyped up, he comes back, and the cycle starts again. I don’t care about him anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:13 AM, Jerksticks said: Maybe. Add Kopech and Collins and maybe it’s all that stuff for Gallen and Marte? Expand I can’t see Gallen being moved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:10 AM, TomPickle said: The Brewers have the third lowest position player fWAR in baseball this year. They have a stars and scrubs thing going on that's not too dissimilar from what the White Sox were doing before they started the rebuild in 2016. The Brewers have just happened to be more successful than the White Sox ever were doing that. They probably are looking for more of a retool than a rebuild like the Sox had to do. I don't really know what the Sox have to offer on the position player side other than Vaughn and I would be pretty bummed to see him be traded even for someone as good as Woodruff. Expand That FO has been straight up brilliant and yeah if I’m a brewers fan I’d expect Vaughan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:13 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Well that one rando said Kopech + Vaughn for Woodruff + Hader. If you throw in Heuer, Collins, and some other pieces (Adolfo, Lopez) is that enough? Would we want to make that trade? Expand I would trade Kopech, Heuer, Dunning, Collins, Stiever, Cease 100% (for the right return). But Vaughn? No way. Not at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 The Padres went through all that to build that system and are ready to burn it d9wn for a taste of success. It's exactly what I want the Sox to avoid. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:13 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Well that one rando said Kopech + Vaughn for Woodruff + Hader. If you throw in Heuer, Collins, and some other pieces (Adolfo, Lopez) is that enough? Would we want to make that trade? Expand I think you absolutely have to do that if it's on the table. The White Sox just have to be serious about getting a real RF in the off-season if they do that since I would guess that Encarnacion isn't getting his option picked up so you'll have two holes to fill in the lineup. They could mix and match at DH (especially if they do somehow keep McCann around) easy enough with internal options, but Mazara needs to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxbrad Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:02 AM, wegner said: Sorry if I'm missing something but I get the Rangers trading Lynn but why would the Brewers trade Woodruff, a guy with lots of control left unless it was a deal they couldn't refuse? Expand I like Woodridge but what has he done in his career Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GradMc Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) On 8/31/2020 at 2:53 AM, skooch said: Frankly, I'm not sold on Kopech. I think there's still a good chance that he falls far short of his billing. I would much rather include him and get Woodruff in return who is controllable until 2025, than include Dunning and get two years of Lance Lynn. Expand Thank you. Do not trade Dunning. Kopech has a lot of issues to work through. Dombrowski and the Red Sox org concluded this guy was not worth the trouble so they peddled him off on Kenny-Hahn. Oh to have Clevinger start one of those games in Minny. Edited August 31, 2020 by GradMc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:16 AM, bmags said: That FO has been straight up brilliant and yeah if I’m a brewers fan I’d expect Vaughan. Expand Vaughn is now expendable due to the next Abreu extension. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:13 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Well that one rando said Kopech + Vaughn for Woodruff + Hader. If you throw in Heuer, Collins, and some other pieces (Adolfo, Lopez) is that enough? Would we want to make that trade? Expand No chance. The only way I deal both Vaughn and Kopech in the same deal is for a guy like deGrom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:17 AM, GradMc said: Thank you. Do not trade Dunning. Kopech has a lot of issues to work through. Dombrowski and the Red Sox org concluded this guy was not worth the trouble so they peddled him off on Kenny-Hahn. Expand Eh. I think they wanted Chris Sale and had to include one of the most exciting pitching prospects in baseball Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:16 AM, southsider2k5 said: The Padres went through all that to build that system and are ready to burn it d9wn for a taste of success. It's exactly what I want the Sox to avoid. Expand The Padres still have one of the best farm systems in baseball. It's fair to question these trades, but they certainly aren't burning anything down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:19 AM, maxjusttyped said: The Padres still have one of the best farm systems in baseball. It's fair to question these trades, but they certainly aren't burning anything down. Expand It’ll be charred when they deal Gore/Abrams +in a deal for Clevinger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 On 8/31/2020 at 3:16 AM, southsider2k5 said: The Padres went through all that to build that system and are ready to burn it d9wn for a taste of success. It's exactly what I want the Sox to avoid. Expand They didn’t really trade a top prospect other than Trammel. They had a much deeper farm than us. Not a fan of their moves but not burning it down imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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