Baron Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) Edited August 31, 2020 by Baron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Baron said: At least no Gore but looks like they’re getting some nice depth for their org retool. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, turnin' two said: Sonny Gray (and really most of these guys) being ahead of Kershaw. Wow. https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/k/kershcl01.shtml Don't know if people have realized this, but he is pitching like prime Kershaw again this year. Sonny Gray as a major league record currently for starts not allowing more than 6 hits. It's been 2+ yaers and almost 40 starts wtihout letting up more than 6 hits. So you ask me who i want for the next 40 starts? you better believe he's in that top 10. We'd walk away with 30 wins in his 40 starts. he keeps you in the game. like i said i knew he'd be the most controversial, but you can't argue results. and i see kershaw, i own him on many fantasy teams, I can see putting him in somewhere between 8-10 to replace a bauer or clevinger. I'd challenge people who want to criticize to make their own list for the next 40 starts and see what you come up with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Ok so I think the correct way to root for the Padres to get fleeced while also rooting for the Indians to not get good players is for Gore to be included and then suck. And also Tatis gets exposed somehow and isn’t good and Manny starts sucking again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Indians get better this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Padres have a deep system. We don't. They can absorb losing some of these guys. Not sure we can, and I bet that factored into the final offers (along with division rivalry). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 How is Bob Nightengale literally always wrong 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Someone should ask the Padres if they even looked ahead to 2024 yet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 So just waiting a couple more hours to announce the trade they made 16 hours ago. all is good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
he gone. Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Between the both of them, they've had one career season in the top 10 in WAR as a pitcher. It's not the only metric that exists, but neither are in that category. Today? The top 10 IMO (in no order) Degrom, Darvish, Giolito, Scherzer, Cole, Greinke, Flaherty, Buehler, Bieber, Verlander (when healthy). So we basically agree on most ... you put in Gio, Flaherty and Greinke for Clev, Bauer and Gray. I can easily see Flaherty and Giolito sniffing the top 10. I can't say that for Greinke, but that's just me. Bauer is controversial as i said, but when locked in he's elite. when he's not, he's probably top 50 only. I'd be willing to interchange Bauer for Flaherty or Giolito possibly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Ben Waffleson said: How is Bob Nightengale literally always wrong What was he wrong about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Indians get better this year. That organization is something. Tied for first place and somehow don’t lose much this year while also improving significantly in future years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Padres got Clev. Damn, knew they were going hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, BrianAnderson said: So we basically agree on most ... you put in Gio, Flaherty and Greinke for Clev, Bauer and Gray. I can easily see Flaherty and Giolito sniffing the top 10. I can't say that for Greinke, but that's just me. Bauer is controversial as i said, but when locked in he's elite. when he's not, he's probably top 50 only. I'd be willing to interchange Bauer for Flaherty or Giolito possibly Clevinger and Bauer aren't even in the next tier for me. They are 20-30 ranked starters in baseball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, Ben Waffleson said: How is Bob Nightengale literally always wrong He did exactly what the Sox wanted him to do. He made people think there was actually a chance the Sox would trade for Clevenger. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 That package actually isn't nearly as bad as some we were discussing on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Amazing how differently the Sox and Indians do business. Indians trade Bauer and Clevinger while contending. The Sox would never do that. Not a criticism, just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 1 minute ago, soxfan2014 said: What was he wrong about? He said its NOT the Padres on a tweet last night around 8pm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Baron said: Arias is awesome too. Indians clean up here. Naylor is a talented kid and they need him now, Arias is going to be damn good and somehow he'll turn into Lindor 2.0 and Quantrill will turn into a very good SP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Waffleson Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 Just now, Harold's Leg Lift said: He did exactly what the Sox wanted him to do. He made people think there was actually a chance the Sox would trade for Clevenger. Yeah I can agree with that. Obvious mouth piece. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Squirmin' for Yermin Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Clevinger and Bauer aren't even in the next tier for me. They are 20-30 ranked starters in baseball. You've lost your mind on Clevinger lol Edited August 31, 2020 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 (edited) I’m fine with that. Jon Heyman’s comments on Clevinger this morning on the score. Mentioned the Indians didn’t like his influence on young pitchers or something to that effect. Edited August 31, 2020 by Bigsoxhurt35 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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