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South Side Hit Men Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) White Sox SP: Dane Dunning (R) Pirates SP: JT Brubaker (R) 1. Tim Anderson (R) SS 2. Yoan Moncada (S) 3B 3. Yasmani Grandal (S) 1B 4. Jose Abreu (R) DH 5. Eloy Jimenez (R) LF 6. Luis Robert (R) CF 7. James McCann (R) C 8. Nomar Mazara (L) RF 9. Nick Madrigal (R) 2B Edited September 9, 2020 by South Side Hit Men Added SP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRDSR Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) McCann at C...interesting. It's hard to come up with the right word for Grandal's defense in the last two innings last night. "Abysmal" is the best descriptor I can come up with. Edit: Of course, some similar skills are required at 1B... Edited September 9, 2020 by BRDSR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Surprised Madrigal didn’t get a seat for running through the sign at third and making a poor choice again on the bases later in the game. Kid needs to stop pressing. I still love em and have complete faith he will grow into a badass. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, hi8is said: Surprised Madrigal didn’t get a seat for running through the sign at third and making a poor choice again on the bases later in the game. Kid needs to stop pressing. I still love em and have complete faith he will grow into a badass. agreed with everything stated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 23 minutes ago, hi8is said: Surprised Madrigal didn’t get a seat for running through the sign at third and making a poor choice again on the bases later in the game. Kid needs to stop pressing. I still love em and have complete faith he will grow into a badass. I think these are situations he has taken advantage of in lower competition that have worked for him. He just needs to learn where and when he can do it in the bigs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, yesterday333 said: I think these are situations he has taken advantage of in lower competition that have worked for him. He just needs to learn where and when he can do it in the bigs. Probably never or very rarely. His hit tool is as advertised. His athleticism is below average relative to MLB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Brudabaker throws a ton of sliders, which isn't ideal for this lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 47 minutes ago, hi8is said: Surprised Madrigal didn’t get a seat for running through the sign at third and making a poor choice again on the bases later in the game. Kid needs to stop pressing. I still love em and have complete faith he will grow into a badass. The kid has played in 13 Major League games. Give him a break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, chw42 said: Brudabaker throws a ton of sliders, which isn't ideal for this lineup. It isnt ideal for any line up. If you saw the game last night they put up a graphic that the Sox were the best at hitting curves/sliders. Edited September 9, 2020 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It isnt ideal any line up. If you saw the game last nigh they put up a graphic that the Sox were the best at hitting curves/sliders. Yeah, the Sox are the #1 team in baseball in hitting sliders this year. Brubaker is actually an ideal matchup, IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Yeah, the Sox are the #1 team in baseball in hitting sliders this year. Brubaker is actually an ideal matchup, IMO Yep. They should pound him tonight. Hopefully it's a laugher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: It isnt ideal for any line up. If you saw the game last night they put up a graphic that the Sox were the best at hitting curves/sliders. Yeah but how are the splits vs. RHP vs. LHP on sliders? I actually can't find those numbers anywhere. It seems like we absolutely kill lefties with sliders like Boyd, but have issues laying off them vs. RHP. Edit: I finally got around to finding some numbers on this. Baseball Savant has Statcast search, which is pretty awesome and lets you get splits on pretty much everything. Anyways, vs. lefties against the slider, the Sox are hitting .250 with a .484 SLG and a .330 wOBA. This is actually the 5th best in baseball. Against RHP vs. the slider, they're hitting .228 with a .439 SLG and a .288 wOBA. This is 11th in baseball. Not as bad as I thought, but also not great. Weirdly enough our best slider hitters are Luis Robert and Eloy Jimenez, two guys who do nothing but chase them (both have a 40+% whiff rate on it). EE is absolute trash vs. the slider (no surprise there). Meanwhile, Robert also seems to struggle mightily against the fastball regardless of handedness. Pretty surprising considering the early scouting report on him. It could be that he's refined his approach to hitting off-speed and is no longer sitting fastball. Edited September 9, 2020 by chw42 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 31 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Probably never or very rarely. His hit tool is as advertised. His athleticism is below average relative to MLB. That's a freezing cold take right there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chitownsportsfan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Perfect Vision said: That's a freezing cold take right there. He's not a good athlete by MLB middle infield standards, let me clarify I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, BRDSR said: McCann at C...interesting. It's hard to come up with the right word for Grandal's defense in the last two innings last night. "Abysmal" is the best descriptor I can come up with. Edit: Of course, some similar skills are required at 1B... Only one game but a pennant race slopfest against a slop team is a bummer. They have not fared well against better teams. Let McCann catch and dole out the DH assignments to whoever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, DoUEvenShift said: Give him a break. I don’t think you understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, hi8is said: I don’t think you understand. I do. And what does benching him accomplish? He's gonna make mistakes, and he already owned up to the 2 he made last night. So lets put in Mendick or Yolmer who are worse? This is the perfect season for him to learn and there are few enough games as is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DoUEvenShift said: I do. Agree to disagree, then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 hour ago, chitownsportsfan said: Probably never or very rarely. His hit tool is as advertised. His athleticism is below average relative to MLB. It's more his decision making. He's taking chances like he is still playing in the PAC 12. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoUEvenShift Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, hi8is said: Agree to disagree, then. Fair enough. If he's still learning to not make these aggressive mistakes I'd rather have him do it in September against the Pirates rather than October when it really matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, ptatc said: It's more his decision making. He's taking chances like he is still playing in the PAC 12. Eh, I'm talking more than just his decisions. His arm strength and quickness at 2B are not what the scouting reports, at least the ones I read, would have you imagine. I like the kid I'm just saying he's a mediocre MLB athlete and he'll have to play around that going forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: Eh, I'm talking more than just his decisions. His arm strength and quickness at 2B are not what the scouting reports, at least the ones I read, would have you imagine. I like the kid I'm just saying he's a mediocre MLB athlete and he'll have to play around that going forward. He’s definitely in the bottom percentile in terms of strength. Hopefully he can keep his elite hit tool as pitchers adjust to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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