bmags Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 1:59 AM, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Jackson's was an easy catch. The other two were catchable but not easy catches. Expand Mingos was definitely toughest, vildor has to have his. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:03 AM, Balta1701 said: On the TD, Trevathan didn't start covering the WR, he started in the middle to look like a potential blitzer then backed off and headed outside. He wouldn't have even been in position to make contact with the WR within 5 yards. Expand Yeah - that play was just a disaster of a play call. It was like asking Danny T to guard Randy Moss while running with his pants down at his ankles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Bears at New Orleans Sunday 3:40 on CBS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 I hope Adam Gase ends up at an extremely unlikeable college program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:08 AM, bmags said: Mingos was definitely toughest, vildor has to have his. Expand Bears need a perfect game to beat Packers. They were in it into fourth quarter despite their own screw ups (Kmet fumble and the long TD). They also didn’t execute in red zone at all - got too cute/conservative. They will lose to Packers 8 or 9 of every 10 games - because Green Bay is as good as anyone in the league. Mitch might have had Robinson on his bad, nearly INT red zone pass in first half if through an accurate ball. Ball got away from him. That Kmet fumble hurt - partly because I thought he was done and partly because it happened when they were driving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:14 AM, bmags said: lol Expand Unfortunately Alabama isn't stupid enough to hire him. There's only one program that's both stupid enough to hire Gase and unlikeable enough to wish they would, but I'd just as soon they let Jim Harbaugh fail for a few more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:18 AM, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Unfortunately Alabama isn't stupid enough to hire him. There's only one program that's both stupid enough to hire Gase and unlikeable enough to wish they would, but I'd just as soon they let Jim Harbaugh fail for a few more years. Expand Hey gase was on Saban’s LSU staff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogua Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:18 AM, bmags said: Hey gase was on Saban’s LSU staff! Expand Saban also gave Mel Tucker an assistant coaching job after he was maybe the worst bears DC of my lifetime. So maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/3/2021 at 10:24 PM, bmags said: He has good defensive numbers because he has a good (albeit declining) defense but he’s a paint by numbers guy that adds nothing. Expand When you say declining, do you mean in terms of age or statistically speaking? On 1/3/2021 at 11:06 PM, bmags said: Ok I’ve seen enough of Duke Shelley. Maybe we should just put trvathan at Cb. Expand As if they actually had a choice in cornerbacks with higher upside than the youngsters, unless McManis was that option. On 1/4/2021 at 12:08 AM, ShoeLessRob said: This shit ass team will “make the playoffs”, lose the first round, and retain all its personnel. Same old story. Expand What would your plan be for this offseason? On 1/4/2021 at 12:13 AM, bmags said: This team reminds me of the 94 bears. Oh well. But I think trade Mack if you can, keep Hicks, and there are pieces here. Expand Trade Mack but keep Hicks? Where’s the upside in that? On 1/4/2021 at 12:18 AM, Tony said: 3-7 to finish the season, sneak into the playoffs to get beat...and come back with the same pieces in place for 2021. How can you not get excited for that??!?!? Expand What would be your plan for this offseason? How do we know they won’t make changes? On 1/4/2021 at 2:10 AM, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: Bears at New Orleans Sunday 3:40 on CBS Expand Which means Kamara can play, Joniak and Thayer mentioned he couldn’t play if it was next Saturday because of the COVID-19 protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 3:17 AM, The Beast said: When you say declining, do you mean in terms of age or statistically speaking? As if they actually had a choice in cornerbacks with higher upside than the youngsters, unless McManis was that option. What would your plan be for this offseason? Trade Mack but keep Hicks? Where’s the upside in that? What would be your plan for this offseason? How do we know they won’t make changes? Which means Kamara can play, Joniak and Thayer mentioned he couldn’t play if it was next Saturday because of the COVID-19 protocol. Expand Beast, I wouldn’t allow Ryan Pace to make another first round selection for this team. This roster is heading in the wrong direction, and I wouldn’t wait another year for the bottom to fall out completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 3:31 AM, Tony said: Beast, I wouldn’t allow Ryan Pace to make another first round selection for this team. This roster is heading in the wrong direction, and I wouldn’t wait another year for the bottom to fall out completely Expand Fair enough so you fire Pace. What do you do with Nagy? What do you do to the roster if they hired a football mind to be Pace’s boss and Nagy stays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 3:36 AM, The Beast said: Fair enough so you fire Pace. What do you do with Nagy? What do you do to the roster if they hired a football mind to be Pace’s boss and Nagy stays? Expand I start over. I just don’t believe in the talent they have assembled. Moreover, I think the problem is fairly simple. It’s just been beaten to death so we want to talk about something else. You went all-in on Mitch. You used significant capital to acquire him, and decide he was the franchise, he was the guy. You built your team to compete for a Super Bowl with Mitch on his rookie deal. It didn’t work. You failed at finding the right guy for the most important position in sports. Right now the odds for the Super Bowl are Chiefs +175, Green Bay +500, Saints +750 in that order. So Mahomes, Rodgers and Brees. Until you can find “the guy” they aren’t doing anything. You took a shot with Mitch. I applaud them going all-in. It failed. The job for the next guy has to be finding a franchise QB. It makeS figuring everything else out that much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 And people actually want to commit to Mitch Trubisky as our QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 4:24 AM, Chicago White Sox said: And people actually want to commit to Mitch Trubisky as our QB. Expand What are the options? It is easy to say they should move on but to whom do they move to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Draft someone at some point when your have the pick up do it. He's not going to be The Guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangeSox Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 Tune in next weekend to nickelodeon (??) for the bears game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 4:24 AM, Chicago White Sox said: And people actually want to commit to Mitch Trubisky as our QB. Expand The bigger question is why did Nagy take back play calling for this game. I really couldn’t figure out why they weren’t throwing any intermediary routes. Mitch should have had plenty of chances for 10-20 yard play action strikes but it just didn’t look like they were calling it. Mitch is clearly not a top5 QB - no debating that. But I still think you keep him and look at someone like Trask or if one of the many top qbs are there in 1st go ahead and think about it. I’m also digging into what happened with Wentz. Last year he was special with crap around him. I think Pederson is a mess right now and Wentz failed this year - but he had a lot of franchise qb in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 4:27 AM, Harry Chappas said: What are the options? It is easy to say they should move on but to whom do they move to? Expand In all honesty, we need to blow this thing up. We don’t have a legit QB, we don’t have an O-Line, our best WR is a UFA and we have little depth at the position. The defense is really good, but is expensive and getting older. Our window to win with this group is quickly coming to an end and I have zero faith in Pace solving all our offensive issues this offseason given our current salary cap & draft pick situations. This draft is loaded with QB talent and we can’t afford to come out of it empty handed. Mitch is not the long-term answer and we are simply delaying the inevitable by signing him a multi-year deal IMO. I’d rather take a QB in the 2nd (Trask / Jones) or 3rd round (Newman) and roll the dice on someone like Winston for a year if we still want to go for it. Even if these guys are long-shots, we need to start investing into the QB position until we finally hit on someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 5:29 AM, Chicago White Sox said: In all honesty, we need to blow this thing up. We don’t have a legit QB, we don’t have an O-Line, our best WR is a UFA and we have little depth at the position. The defense is really good, but is expensive and getting older. Our window to win with this group is quickly coming to an end and I have zero faith in Pace solving all our offensive issues this offseason given our current salary cap & draft pick situations. This draft is loaded with QB talent and we can’t afford to come out of it empty handed. Mitch is not the long-term answer and we are simply delaying the inevitable by signing him a multi-year deal IMO. I’d rather take a QB in the 2nd (Trask / Jones) or 3rd round (Newman) and roll the dice on someone like Winston for a year if we still want to go for it. Even if these guys are long-shots, we need to start investing into the QB position until we finally hit on someone. Expand I do not disagree but don't think the Bears will see it that way. There needs to be a seasoned football mind in the building. The Bears hire inexperienced people and then wonder why they fail. I believe Pace said he would draft a QB annually, He has drafted one but he does love to draft WR's and TE's for some odd reason. I am not certain what to make of Mitch or any of this but I do think it all comes back next year. I think the O line has solidified itself and that has helped Mitch and the running game and we can see that he still needs work but he is serviceable. All of the money has been spent on the defense thus this is what we have. I think they sign Mitch for two years and draft a QB in the first three rounds. They are stuck with Foles next year I believe. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 I really think this team is too good to blow up. I think they have to take a risk on a guy like Wentz in a trade, or maybe hope Winston learned something behind Brees. Franchise Robinson if you can't extend him. Go OL heavy in the draft. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 4, 2021 Author Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:51 PM, scs787 said: I really think this team is too good to blow up. I think they have to take a risk on a guy like Wentz in a trade, or maybe hope Winston learned something behind Brees. Franchise Robinson if you can't extend him. Go OL heavy in the draft. Expand This is also just a terrible job right now. Unless they give a guy the Gruden contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 1:31 PM, Harry Chappas said: I do not disagree but don't think the Bears will see it that way. There needs to be a seasoned football mind in the building. The Bears hire inexperienced people and then wonder why they fail. I believe Pace said he would draft a QB annually, He has drafted one but he does love to draft WR's and TE's for some odd reason. I am not certain what to make of Mitch or any of this but I do think it all comes back next year. I think the O line has solidified itself and that has helped Mitch and the running game and we can see that he still needs work but he is serviceable. All of the money has been spent on the defense thus this is what we have. I think they sign Mitch for two years and draft a QB in the first three rounds. They are stuck with Foles next year I believe. Expand Almost every game Mitch throws an INT or what should have been an INT in the endzone. He is a back up or some guy you can use in a wildcat or some trick offense. But he is never going to be a franchise QB, and even if he plays well, he will always do something stupid that will cost you a game you need to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:51 PM, scs787 said: I really think this team is too good to blow up. I think they have to take a risk on a guy like Wentz in a trade, or maybe hope Winston learned something behind Brees. Franchise Robinson if you can't extend him. Go OL heavy in the draft. Expand I agree with lines 1 and 3. Disagree with line 2. This team went 8-8 with terrible coaching. They have a lot of talent and a good coach has them 10-6 or better. I think they need to get rid of Nagy and keep building on what they have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWINFan Posted January 4, 2021 Share Posted January 4, 2021 On 1/4/2021 at 2:55 PM, Dick Allen said: Almost every game Mitch throws an INT or what should have been an INT in the endzone. He is a back up or some guy you can use in a wildcat or some trick offense. But he is never going to be a franchise QB, and even if he plays well, he will always do something stupid that will cost you a game you need to win. Expand I agree and these errant throws are getting tiresome. He's been around long enough that things like this shouldn't happen. The best Mitch will ever be is a serviceable #2 QB. He does look good at times, but there is something missing in this picture. The Bears will have a quarterback controversy as long as Mitch is the starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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