ScootsMcGoots Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, poppysox said: Sox played better tonight with someone else calling the managerial shots. Did you see all the steals?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 1 hour ago, poppysox said: Sox played better tonight with someone else calling the managerial shots. yeah, let's let that guy call the playoff games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Bump so we don't need to start a new thread. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Bump so we don't need to start a new thread. I still want to fire him.. But this game isn't a reason why. He did most everything correct imo.. 1. no one could have predicted Crochet getting hurt. 2. Taking Bummer out after 1 inning imo was a bad move. 3. Ever throwing Rodon was a bad move. Other than 2/3 (and 2 is small), the pitchers just couldn't find the zone. Not much he could do there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I still want to fire him.. But this game isn't a reason why. He did most everything correct imo.. 1. no one could have predicted Crochet getting hurt. 2. Taking Bummer out after 1 inning imo was a bad move. 3. Ever throwing Rodon was a bad move. Other than 2/3 (and 2 is small), the pitchers just couldn't find the zone. Not much he could do there He's also put all of his pitchers into positions that they're not used to. Relievers are like goalies, creatures of habit. Any given day they know "I'm the 7th inning guy", "I'm the 8th", "I come in for this type of situation", etc. Today Ricky decided to blow it all up and try something totally new, didn't give Dunning an opportunity succeed, and now everyone on the bench is looking around like they have no idea who is up next. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 So last week he even agreed that bringing Rodon in in the middle of a high stress inning was stupid. He does it again. He shouldn't be on the plane home if we lose Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Ricky did some mistakes but this game he really managed great. He pulled dunning when he got in trouble and then went with his best guys stretching them maybe a batter too long but not terrible either. This game there were two problems and neither is on ricky: 1. The sox don't have a third starter 2. The usually good relievers didn't find the zone Nothing he could do here. Sure it sucks rodon had to pitch but he brought in rodon with 2 out and bases empty, a perfect situation that doesn't get any easier. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I don't blame this one AS much on ricky as others - but every move he made failed. The team also was clearly chocking and not relaxed. Again I don't think this one necessarily was his fault - but it wasn't some exoneration of his shitty ability either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Simply as bad a managing job the last 2 weeks as I’ve seen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 That might have been Ricky's worst managed game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Both Rodon moves make him expendable tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Listen to Frank Thomas on the post game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, Nokona said: Listen to Frank Thomas on the post game What is he saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 4 minutes ago, TheBlackSox8 said: Both Rodon moves make him expendable tonight. I want to ask "who, Rodon or Ricky?", but the answer is clearly both. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 theres a reason a lot of us laughed our asses off when he was Venturas replacement I mean, a GM cant be this bad at his job and expect to build a contender but here we are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Think Ricky read this thread last night and said fuck it, let’s get weird today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, SoxFanForever said: What is he saying? By going away from Dunning he upped the stress on the entire team. Then he piles all the best relievers by the 4th and how can the team hold a lead late? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, MiddleCoastBias said: I want to ask "who, Rodon or Ricky?", but the answer is clearly both. As soon as he brought him in I texted a bunch of people saying "the game is lost now". I was right...that was the wrong domino to fall. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RudyLawRules Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Wtf, did anyone see this just now? Rick Hahn post-game statement on Renteria's future with White Sox: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Good thing he brought Rodon into that Indians game to get him used to high leverage, tough spots out of the bullpen! That really paid dividends today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan of Steel Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 I can't imagine why anybody would think this wasn't poorly managed by RR. If you're going into your pen in the first inning, your strategy is bad. Period. You can't expect a pen to stretch that far into a game. I get there was a lot of things that Ricky couldn't control, like the injuries (seriously, the f*ck did we do to anger the baseball gods?) and Abreu suddenly stranding his teammates at sea over and over again, but he did his bullpen zero favors with his "throw sh*t at the wall and see what sticks" arm strategy. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Sometimes I think managers should just pull a Costanza and do the opposite thing of what they come up with. So many managers make the wrong call in crucial decision-making situations. Everything I'm saying here is with hindsight on my side so it's just anger talking probably. Once the decision was made to start Denning, you stick with him and hope he has a gem for 4-6 innings. Then play the bullpen game. Taking him out that early is a defensive move, on your heels move. Olson eventually came up against Marshall, it just took longer after RR decimated the bullpen instead of the first inning. RR I think it's safe to say is a mediocre manager. You get what you pay for. Sox can either a.) let him stay since players like him. b.) get rid of him and hire another cheap replacement from our minor league system. c.) fire a famous guy and see what happens. I'd suspect cause of the injuries today and fact the team only had two starters available for the postseason saves RR. He'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chetkincaid Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Frank is annihilating Renteria on the post game show. We’ll probably hear something about this. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Al Leiter basically just called Renteria an idiot 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 3 minutes ago, chetkincaid said: Frank is annihilating Renteria on the post game show. We’ll probably hear something about this. Can you sum it up a little? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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