jaws7575 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I hope I am really wrong but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, jaws7575 said: I hope I am really wrong but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John Is he turning into Tommy John? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaws7575 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I hope I am really wrong but this fore arm tightness sounds like a early symptom of Tommy John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaws7575 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 no jerk off 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tray Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 FWIW I looked at the video of Crochet leaving the mound and he did not appear to be in pain. Not sure that means anything but I thought i would mention it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 33 minutes ago, jaws7575 said: no jerk off Welcome to Soxtalk! 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ. It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 43 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ. It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL. Oh god, I didn’t even think of the Kopech like implications of an injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 MLBExec burner mentioned in a reply comment that he will be fine per sources. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perfect Vision Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 12 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: It usually happens at once. A pitcher will tell you he either felt it snap or heard it pop. They know the moment it happens. That's why i'm optimistic it's a strain or a cramp. He didn't react like it snapped. If I remember correctly, Kopech had no idea he tore his UCL. Didn't he say he was surprised by the diagnosis? It seems that sometimes the pitcher knows immediately he injured himself, and sometimes they don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox59 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 If it is TJS, i assume this is another Kopech situation where he is going to be on the mlb IL all next year? Or can the Sox option him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 That's why I said it usually happens at once. There are times when the ligament is so significantly frayed that it just breaks away which is what happened to Kopech. The more more frequent injury is the ligament snapping at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 9 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Is he turning into Tommy John? Garrett Crochet prays that he turns into Tommy John. Dude had 26 year career and a borderline HOF one at that. If we got that from Crochet, it would be a win of the highest magnitude. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 hours ago, jaws7575 said: no jerk off Peavy44?!? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: That sucks. Hopefully he can avoid TJ. It sounds bad but I would try conservative treatment first so you can keep him on the roster and send him down instead of 15 months of service time getting lost on the DL. me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RibbieRubarb Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 24 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Any updates? They are waiting for the DNA test to come back to see if the transformation into Tommy John is proceeding as planned. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 12 hours ago, jaws7575 said: no jerk off Wait, are you telling him no, to jerking off? That's just rude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Fireworks Man Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Garrett Crochet prays that he turns into Tommy John. Dude had 26 year career and a borderline HOF one at that. If we got that from Crochet, it would be a win of the highest magnitude. And if we can trade him after seven productive seasons along with a utility infielder for the equivalent of Dick Allen I'll be ecstatic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Any updates? Sox stayed overnight in California. They just landed, so maybe tomorrow they’ll check him out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, flavum said: Sox stayed overnight in California. They just landed, so maybe tomorrow they’ll check him out. I would have made them take the red eye....only winners get an overnight stay 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Bad sign we haven’t heard anything. I didn’t want to be Jump to conclusions mat, but TJ seems more and more likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 23 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: That's why I said it usually happens at once. There are times when the ligament is so significantly frayed that it just breaks away which is what happened to Kopech. The more more frequent injury is the ligament snapping at once. I think the ligament never really snaps at once. Of course at some point it will snap but it always was weakened before, an uncompromised UCL won't tear. One theory with the forearm strains that sometimes occur before tj is the ligament kinda gets stretched out or loosened a little and then forearm muscles try to do the job of the ligament and stabilize the elbow which can lead to overload of those muscles when throwing and subsequently muscle strains. Not sure if that is really true though and even if it is not every strain must be related to an ucl problem. Often forearm strains occur before ucl injuries but sometimes they are just forearm strains and the elbow is ok after a couple weeks of rest. Edited October 3, 2020 by Dominikk85 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, Blackout Friday said: Bad sign we haven’t heard anything. I didn’t want to be Jump to conclusions mat, but TJ seems more and more likely. Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 53 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? I think anything big they’ll let it ride a few days and not try to pile on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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