fathom Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just now, Blackout Friday said: I think anything big they’ll let it ride a few days and not try to pile on We will get an update when Hahn holds his end of the season media call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? No not really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 hour ago, fathom said: We will get an update when Hahn holds his end of the season media call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Just mumbling amongst some pals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Don’t they typically announce Tommy John issues pretty quickly? A lot of the time they have to wait a couple days for swelling to go down before things can be fully examined, if there is any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 Where we are on the calendar, there really is no rush. If they think he can rehab it, this happened at a good time. If it is determined during his offseason program or in spring training he needs surgery, he won’t miss mor than he would miss if they operated tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Where we are on the calendar, there really is no rush. If they think he can rehab it, this happened at a good time. If it is determined during his offseason program or in spring training he needs surgery, he won’t miss mor than he would miss if they operated tomorrow. Well, that's not certain? Some guys take 14 months to be back to pitching after TJS and others are pitching but take additional months to years to return to effectiveness. IF a guy has TJS in the spring, he may not be ready to go by opening day of the next year. If he has TJS right now, he should at least be ready for spring training 2022, if there is one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Go to sleep Bosley. it's clearly past your bedtime. Edited October 3, 2020 by Yearnin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: Go to sleep Bosley. it's clearly past your bedtime. Luckily the off-season is just beginning which means you’ll have several months to work on your funny man bit that, at the moment, is not landing the plane on the punchlines. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted October 3, 2020 Share Posted October 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Tony said: At the moment?!?!?!? Lol - I was only addressing his little jab at me, but I see your point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 3, 2020 Author Share Posted October 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? Forearm tightness is the most common early diagnosis of a torn UCL that doesn't happen in one big dramatic instant tear. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 4 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Well, that's not certain? Some guys take 14 months to be back to pitching after TJS and others are pitching but take additional months to years to return to effectiveness. IF a guy has TJS in the spring, he may not be ready to go by opening day of the next year. If he has TJS right now, he should at least be ready for spring training 2022, if there is one. If there is something messed up right now, he will miss next season anyway. If they think rest will fix it, they will know probably before spring training if it worked. If he needs surgery and has it by February, chances are he will lose no more time than if they operate now. This isn’t like if it happened next April and they decided to try rest and have that fail. Hopefully he is fine and this was a bit of a false alarm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuliusO1274 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 54 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? He said there was something going on. There is a lot all of us can criticize RR for, but lifting him was the correct move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 4, 2020 Author Share Posted October 4, 2020 56 minutes ago, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? If the choice is to overreact or underreact to a potential UCL injury the answer is ALWAYS to overreact. Always. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 10 hours ago, Thad Bosley said: It doesn’t say he left the game with “left ROTATOR CUFF tightness”. It says “left FOREARM tightness”. So why is everyone jumping to the conclusion that TJS is inevitable at this point? You mixed that up. Rotator cuff is shoulder while TJ is elbow 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted October 4, 2020 Share Posted October 4, 2020 The usual course is to rest and rehab for a year then have TJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/4/2020 at 9:12 AM, pcq said: The usual course is to rest and rehab for a year then have TJ. As long as he's optioned first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: As long as he's optioned first Its time to stop worrying about service time. This team has moved into its contention window. For the next few years, the goal should be to put the most talented players on the field every single day. If Crochet needs TJ, he should get it done tomorrow. The team shouldn't be thinking about 2027 right now. They should be thinking about winning the World Series as many times as possible. And manipulating one guys time isn't going to make a difference in keeping the window open. The only way they can do that is to draft, develop, and sign guys well. Edited October 5, 2020 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/3/2020 at 5:58 PM, JuliusO1274 said: I'm not sure what is worse, he needs Tommy John surgery or he is fine and they took him out for no reason other than his velocity was down. Did he give some type of signal to the dugout that something was wrong or did Ricky and the trainer come out on their own because they were curious about his velocity? Not sure what is worse ? Of course him being hurt is way worse. There's no other way to look at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 That was one nasty curve ball he threw to get the last out in the first inning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Good news maybe? 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, beautox said: Good news maybe? definitely in chicago to get tests done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 Man seeing the bean that empty is depressing. So is a long winter with no baseball. "People ask me what I do in the winter when there's no baseball. I tell 'em, I stare out the window and wait for spring". -- Rogers Hornsby 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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