thxfrthmmrs Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) A bittersweet season is in the books. The silver lining of the early playoff exit is there is no excuse for us not to add quality starting pitching in the offseason. Had we had a competent #3 starter, we would have easily came out on top. Who is the most likely addition? Is Bauer dream realistic? Is Kluber worth the gamble? Does Stroman move the needle? Can Q still pitch? Are there realistic trade candidates? Edited October 1, 2020 by thxfrthmmrs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlackSox8 Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Bauer said a multi year deal isn't off the table if the culture is something he can live with. Hahn is good at structuring and figuring contracts...I think we are a good fit for him honestly. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Bauer and Q 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tony said: Yeah, I still agree with this.....and also agree it's not the solution or what this team really needs....but I think it's the correct guess. Give me Stroman and Q and trade Cease Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 1, 2020 Author Share Posted October 1, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Tony said: Yeah, I still agree with this.....and also agree it's not the solution or what this team really needs....but I think it's the correct guess. Probably realistic, but I don't feel much more comfortable with Q starting today's game than Dunning. In that case, we pretty much have to expect 2/3 from the Cease/Dunning/Kopech group to take big steps if we are to become legit contenders. Edited October 1, 2020 by thxfrthmmrs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 1 minute ago, almagest said: Bauer and Q I'm good with that. Bauer Gio DK Kopech Q The rest of the guys can sort themselves out. I'm not sure Dunning, Cease, or Stiever will become more than a 4 or 5. They can also be dangled as trade bait. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Probably realistic, but I don't feel any more comfortable with Q starting today's game than Dunning. In that case, we pretty much have to expect 2/3 from the Cease/Dunning/Kopech group to take big steps if we are to become legit contenders. Gonna need depth. Sox had trouble covering 60 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Give me Stroman and Q and trade Cease My dream is that we trade Cease+ to Boston for Benintendi and stick him in RF. I'm going to be pushing that all off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 An issue is the sox have so many question marks. Dunning, cease, kopech and even Reylo all could step up next season but neither of them is a sure thing. Realistically you can hope for two of them stepping up so you would need one more but in an ideal case 3 of them step up and the sox rotation is pretty solid. Of course also the worst case could happen and only one of them steps up and then you need two. Lots of uncertainty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) I still think Lance Lynn makes sense if he can be gotten at a reasonable price. Him and Stroman would be my ideal combo. Edited October 2, 2020 by TomPickle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: My dream is that we trade Cease+ to Boston for Benintendi and stick him in RF. I'm going to be pushing that all off-season. This is like saying your wet dream is... I don't know. Someone really medicore. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I'd be fine with Quintana, but we need more than just him. Stroman is friends with TA so maybe we can get him. He's not going to be overly expensive, but we'll probably have to give him more money than Keuchel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 There is something about the interactions where I think right now, Bauer wants to play for the White Sox. I think the question will be what it always is, money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) I think they need 2 pitchers. Bauer would be great. Stroman would be too. Also I would see who you is available in a trade. I'd be willing to trade Kopech/Cease/Dunning/Lopez/Setiver(yeah, no value), now, not all of them obviously, but I'd sure put two of them in a package for the right guy. Edited October 2, 2020 by turnin' two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: An issue is the sox have so many question marks. Dunning, cease, kopech and even Reylo all could step up next season but neither of them is a sure thing. Realistically you can hope for two of them stepping up so you would need one more but in an ideal case 3 of them step up and the sox rotation is pretty solid. Of course also the worst case could happen and only one of them steps up and then you need two. Lots of uncertainty. Hopefully Kopech is what we all hope he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Stroman & Quintana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, Tony said: You can make that list with basically every team that doesn't win the World Series. Yeah probably. I think it's better to err on the side of too much pitching, on paper it might look overcrowded but in reality if you have 6 solid starters there might be a crunch the first couple starts but then it usually gets sorted out quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: There is something about the interactions where I think right now, Bauer wants to play for the White Sox. I think the question will be what it always is, money. He clearly loves TA, had McCann on his show, fits really well on our #ChangeTheGame culture, we have a big hole with starting pitching, he's probably gonna win the NL Cy Young especially after blowing through the Braves yesterday... it's really a fantastic fit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxfest Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Signing Q back is so a White Sox move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Tony said: Realistically, that was ALWAYS going to be the case with this rebuild. One of them had to turn into "the goods" If everything pans out. Right now, I don't have good confidence in any of the 3 to be a quality #2 or 3 starter next year. Rest of the team is ready, offense, defense, bullpen (with another high leverage piece), waiting to see if these guys develop would be wasting a year of our window. I am fine if these guys are penciled in as 4/5 and let them develop, not a 2/3. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Bauer immediately becomes AJP 2.0 You hate him until he's here and then you just hate him a little less 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, Dominikk85 said: Yeah probably. I think it's better to err on the side of too much pitching, on paper it might look overcrowded but in reality if you have 6 solid starters there might be a crunch the first couple starts but then it usually gets sorted out quickly. There will never be enough pitching. Didn’t the Dodgers have 7 starters last year, and wound up needing more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkness99 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: There is something about the interactions where I think right now, Bauer wants to play for the White Sox. I think the question will be what it always is, money. that would be awesome... he prob wants to stick it to cleveland multiple games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted October 2, 2020 Author Share Posted October 2, 2020 I think this offseason will show us how committed JR is in winning another WS. On paper, adding Bauer alone makes this team a legit WS contender. He is going to cost us, and may make some headlines off the field, but it's well worth it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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