southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 14 hours ago, fathom said: Q Plan C, I think. Bauer, then Stroman (who might even be Target A for this team) and then someone like Q. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 hours ago, fathom said: I think teams with huge TV deals would have an advantage As well as teams with no debt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: Plan C, I think. Bauer, then Stroman (who might even be Target A for this team) and then someone like Q. Bauer just isn’t realistic, IMO. Stroman or Odorizzi is way more realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 hours ago, fathom said: Agreed, but does that seem like something Jerry would do? Typically no, but you have to wonder if he looks at this group as his last great hope before he dies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 13 hours ago, southsideirish71 said: Same could be said for Gio and Detwiller before the season started. Yet here we are. Gio was signed as a swingman, and Detwiler was roster filler. They were never meant to be front guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 11 hours ago, Balta1701 said: jfc. I'm doing the embedding for you. I wonder if they are trying to get non-tendered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) Rodon should be non-tendered regardless. Can’t trust him in any role, and there are better pitchers than him anyway. He can go to Pittsburgh, Colorado, or Baltimore. I like the Odorizzi idea for free agency. Edited October 2, 2020 by flavum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: Hamels is 36 and only pitched 3 innings this year due to a shoulder injury. He was a fantastic pitcher and still pretty good 2019 but I'm scared of a 36 year old with a shoulder injury. As a cheap reclamation project sure but not as a guy you rely on. To be honest I just want to be done with this sort of thing. I'm tired of mid-30's coin flips. I realize 1 year deals are sometimes needed to round out the rotation and the older guys tend to fit that mold but I don't think it ever works for us and there have to be slightly younger options available that aren't just injury risks. Wasn't Collin McHugh available last year? Edited October 2, 2020 by KonerkoFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 10 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Plan C, I think. Bauer, then Stroman (who might even be Target A for this team) and then someone like Q. Fully agree with this. I just don’t believe Quintana is plan A unless they plan to pursue a big-time RF like Springer and I don’t see that happening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Fully agree with this. I just don’t believe Quintana is plan A unless they plan to pursue a big-time RF like Springer and I don’t see that happening. I really think they will be limited in budget and will make a starting pitcher priority A. i think they know they can live with a bad RF way more than they can live without another quality starting pitcher. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Fully agree with this. I just don’t believe Quintana is plan A unless they plan to pursue a big-time RF like Springer and I don’t see that happening. No but I'd be super happy to get one of Bauer or Stroman and add Q as well. Think that would be about as good a result as we could hope for. Edited October 2, 2020 by KonerkoFan1 Typo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I really think they will be limited in budget and will make a starting pitcher priority A. i think they know they can live with a bad RF way more than they can live without another quality starting pitcher. Could totally see them trading a relief arm for Kole Calhoun. It’s just so hard to predict anything though with the COVID impact on money. Edited October 2, 2020 by fathom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) You have to go all in for Bauer. That said, ya, Q seems like the right answer. Edited October 2, 2020 by Rowand44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, Balta1701 said: jfc. I'm doing the embedding for you. Rodon did a post-game interview after he (unfairly, I will say) was put into the game in Cleveland with bases loaded and blew it. He said it was all on him, and anytime you are called on as a Major Leaguer, you need to get the job done. Now, I know it's an interview, but he did say it. So, ASHLEY, why don't you stop fighting your husband's battles on Twitter (what are you, the US president?) and let him either A) defend himself or B) admit he screwed up (which he actually did, and completely contradicts your asinine tweet). Bye Felicia! Edited October 2, 2020 by ScooterMcGee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I really think they will be limited in budget and will make a starting pitcher priority A. i think they know they can live with a bad RF way more than they can live without another quality starting pitcher. Agree. And there should be ways to add a RF on the cheap that can platoon with Engel and give you league average production. Adding the best starter possible needs to be the priority when it comes to our resources. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: Could totally see them trading a relief arm for Kole Calhoun. It’s just so hard to predict anything though with the COVID impact on money. It wouldn't shock me if our biggest moves this winter were trades. it is so impossible to know what this offseason brings in terms of budget and spending. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, KonerkoFan1 said: No but I'd be super happy to get one of Bauer or Stroman and add Q as well. Think that would be about as good a result as we could hope for. Quintana is getting a $10M+ per year deal, so I don’t think it’s realistic to expect him in addition to a high-end starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: It wouldn't shock me if our biggest moves this winter were trades. it is so impossible to know what this offseason brings in terms of budget and spending. I could definitely see us taking on contracts from teams looking to offload salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I could definitely see us taking on contracts from teams looking to offload salary. With Jerry Reinsdorf as owner? GTFO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: With Jerry Reinsdorf as owner? GTFO. This is very common thing for Jerry to do, so maybe get the fuck back in? Remember Thome? Contreras? They get these contracts at pennies on the dollar and sending back less value 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: With Jerry Reinsdorf as owner? GTFO. Remember taking on Rios’ contract and to a lesser extent Peavy’s? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I could definitely see us taking on contracts from teams looking to offload salary. I think that is a definite possibility and I think Kopech might be the sweetener to get a deal done. Just a feeling I have had for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Remember taking on Rios’ contract and to a lesser extent Peavy’s? That didn't happen in a world where fans aren't allowed at full capacity, if at all. It wouldn't shock me if they did absolutely nothing but make trades for guys on cheap deals. Edited October 2, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, Jack Parkman said: That didn't happen in a world where fans aren't allowed at full capacity, if at all. It wouldn't shock me if they did absolutely nothing but make trades for guys on cheap deals. Dude, don't change this to a covid excuse. That's fucking lame. Just own it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Just now, wegner said: I think that is a definite possibility and I think Kopech might be the sweetener to get a deal done. Just a feeling I have had for awhile. I think Kopech only goes if it’s a deal for someone like DeGromm. But given the size of his contract, I’d rather just sign Baeur and keep Kopech for the back of the rotation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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