fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:47 AM, HahnsKiddieTable said: Yep. This team needs to land it’s big fish one way or another this offseason. Enough of 2nd place bids, whether that’s via trade or free agency. Now is the time to strike. Expand He didn’t exactly pan out, but when Cubs were in same spot as Sox after 2015, they went out and got Heyward and weren’t afraid to shake things up and get Zobrist. I hope Hahn hasn’t fallen in love with the prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:50 AM, Capn12 said: Are you ok with Joc, IF we somehow, through a major miracle, convinced Bauer to be here? Joc isn't really someone I want, but I'd be ok with it, if it meant a real #1 added to the rotation. And I say that, knowing that there really is no shot this organization goes and gets Bauer. Expand Yes absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:50 AM, fathom said: He didn’t exactly pan out, but when Cubs were in same spot as Sox after 2015, they went out and got Heyward and weren’t afraid to shake things up and get Zobrist. I hope Hahn hasn’t fallen in love with the prospects. Expand You're not going with the strong sell here are you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Q was absolutely one of my favorite players when he was here but if he is our only starting pitching acquisition I will be very disappointed. Bauer has to be the #1 priority target in the offseason imho. I would also like them to get some veteran arms for the bullpen. Mazara had good at bats late in the season and the postseason. I think he is back next year. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beautox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 SP - Quintana and I'd love to see the FO land Bauer RF - Brantley / Trade / Jackie Bradley Jr. / Pederson < in that order C - Re-sign McCann if its a depressed market if not move on. Try to continue to lock up the core and add additional depth you can keep at AAA. Let Bummer takeover closing and the kids sort themselves out if more help is needed, move pieces at the deadline. Anderson Moncada# Abreu Jimenez Grandal# Robert Vaughn Brantley* Madrigal Collins* Garcia# Mendick Engel Bauer Kechel* Giolito Quintana* Dunning Bummer* Heuer Foster Marshall Crochet* Cordero Fry* Burdi If rosters are expanded to 27 re-sign Sanchez 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:50 AM, fathom said: He didn’t exactly pan out, but when Cubs were in same spot as Sox after 2015, they went out and got Heyward and weren’t afraid to shake things up and get Zobrist. I hope Hahn hasn’t fallen in love with the prospects. Expand I actually really hope Hahn doesn’t go out and hand a huge contract to an underperforming player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:50 AM, fathom said: He didn’t exactly pan out, but when Cubs were in same spot as Sox after 2015, they went out and got Heyward and weren’t afraid to shake things up and get Zobrist. I hope Hahn hasn’t fallen in love with the prospects. Expand This team will not win without another rock solid starting pitcher. If this means you have to go out on the trade market to acquire one so be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeElia Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I think you need to go all in now with the expectation of having a 3 year window. The White Sox don’t have endless financial resources but they should be able to push a $150 million payroll over the next 3 years. Here is what I would do if I was GM - Trade for Lindor and extend contract, move TA to LF. Looking at the package BOS got for Betts I think the price for Lindor would be less than what LAD paid. Sign Springer Sign Stroman Acquire TOR arm for a package built around Vaughn This lineup would be the best in baseball: TA Lindor Robert Abreu Moncada Jimenez - Permanent DH Springer Grandal Madigral Rotation would look like: Giolito TOR acquired via trade DK Stroman One of the remaining arms you didn't trade (Kopech, Dunning, Cease) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeaseAndExist Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:05 AM, HahnsKiddieTable said: sThis team will not win without another rock solid starting pitcher. If this means you have to go out on the trade market to acquire one so be it. Expand Need 2 more good starters. We have Giolito and Keuchel. Maybe Kopech/Cease/Dunning can fill the #5 spot. Bauer and Stroman or trade for someone like Gallen/Bundy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeaseAndExist Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:17 AM, LeeElia said: I think you need to go all in now with the expectation of having a 3 year window. The White Sox don’t have endless financial resources but they should be able to push a $150 million payroll over the next 3 years. Here is what I would do if I was GM - Trade for Lindor and extend contract, move TA to LF. Looking at the package BOS got for Betts I think the price for Lindor would be less than what LAD paid. Sign Springer Sign Stroman Acquire TOR arm for a package built around Vaughn This lineup would be the best in baseball: TA Lindor Robert Abreu Moncada Jimenez - Permanent DH Springer Grandal Madigral Rotation would look like: Giolito TOR acquired via trade DK Stroman One of the remaining arms you didn't trade (Kopech, Dunning, Cease) Expand lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 12:12 AM, chw42 said: We're 100% getting Joc Pederson. He probably won't cost a whole lot either because he had a terrible year. Expand A Pederson / Engel platoon could pretty damn effective in RF. Then take the rest of your money and sign Baeur and the best reliever you can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeElia Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:18 AM, CeaseAndExist said: lol Expand Thank you for sharing. Any other thoughts? Sox have the assets in prospect capital and dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Dare I say it? Trade for Jason Heyward. Won’t cost much of anything other than $$$ and he’s hit righties well the last two seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:21 AM, LeeElia said: Thank you for sharing. Any other thoughts? Sox have the assets in prospect capital and dollars. Expand Who are we trading for Lindor? Will team be okay being bumped from SS after playing very well? Vaughn plus who for that TOR arm after trading for Lindor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:10 AM, fathom said: I think they bring in a new back-up catcher. Collins is traded IMO Expand Who is the DH when they manipulate Vaughn’s service time then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:22 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: Dare I say it? Trade for Jason Heyward. Won’t cost much of anything other than $$$ and he’s hit righties well the last two seasons. Expand No way. He was good this year in a short season but otherwise hasn't been a good hitter since 2015, he's 31, and we'd be paying him through his age 35 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:25 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Who is the DH when they manipulate Vaughn’s service time then? Expand EE on his option that Rick picks up this offseason ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 1:42 AM, fathom said: Sox should be a team players want to come to and contend. No more having to pay a “we suck” tax. I will be disappointed if Q and Joc are the main adds. Expand Would you be upset with Joc if it allows them to add Bauer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeeElia Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:24 AM, SonofaRoache said: Who are we trading for Lindor? Will team be okay being bumped from SS after playing very well? Vaughn plus who for that TOR arm after trading for Lindor? Expand I think TA wants to win and Lindor is a better SS. Vaughn + Kopech easily gets you Gallen. Dunning + controllable BP arm + lottery ticket Adolfo / Sheets probably gets you Lindor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:25 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Who is the DH when they manipulate Vaughn’s service time then? Expand Eloy probably still recovering and will have to DH 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 (edited) On 10/2/2020 at 2:26 AM, almagest said: No way. He was good this year in a short season but otherwise hasn't been a good hitter since 2015, he's 31, and we'd be paying him through his age 35 season. Expand How do you figure? He just turned 31 and he’s only signed for three more seasons. Paid thru age 33 season... He’s got about $72M remaining. Have Cubs pick up $15-$20M and we’ll give them a nobody like we did in the Mazara deal. Edited October 2, 2020 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:27 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Would you be upset with Joc if it allows them to add Bauer? Expand You could add Bauer and bring back Mazara and I would be ok with that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:28 AM, fathom said: Eloy probably still recovering and will have to DH Expand Recovering from what? Did he get a more severe injury today that’s going to require months of recovery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:29 AM, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said: How do you figure? He just turned 31 and he’s only signed for three more seasons. Paid thru age 33 season... Expand Yeah, you're right. I can't read. Still don't want to pay him $21-22 mil/yr for ~ 1.9 WAR/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 2:31 AM, Chicago White Sox said: Recovering from what? Did he get a more severe injury today that’s going to require months of recovery? Expand Sarcasm but given Eloy, I’m sure it will be something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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