smellysox Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 7:52 PM, maloney.adam said: Expand Im not sure i want to get involved with Darvish. That's alot of $$$ for a pitcher entering his 34, 35, and 36 age year. Not to mention the prospects he would require. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:00 PM, smellysox said: Im not sure i want to get involved with Darvish. That's alot of $$$ for a pitcher entering his 34, 35, and 36 age year. Not to mention the prospects he would require. Expand I would think it would be a salary dump though so I don’t know if it would cost that many assets to get him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/17/2020 at 9:02 PM, maloney.adam said: I would think it would be a salary dump though so I don’t know if it would cost that many assets to get him. Expand There are a few teams that would take on Yu’s deal, so you’re going to have to give up a good amount. Edited November 17, 2020 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/17/2020 at 9:00 PM, smellysox said: Im not sure i want to get involved with Darvish. That's alot of $$$ for a pitcher entering his 34, 35, and 36 age year. Not to mention the prospects he would require. Expand Looks like ownership has a mandate to cut payroll. Not sure how much leverage they will have push comes to shove. Edited November 17, 2020 by SouthWallace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:04 PM, fathom said: There are a few teams that would take on Yu’s deal, so you’re going to have to give up a good amount. Expand Ok so if you had to choose between Darvish, Lynn and Marquez. Who would you take and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:07 PM, maloney.adam said: Ok so if you had to choose between Darvish, Lynn and Marquez. Who would you take and why? Expand Darvish +100.. Lynn I dont have much interest trading a top prospect for 1 year. And Ithink we are vastly overvaluing Marquez. But if we aren't adn that's really his value, I don't want a part of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 8:51 PM, South Side Hit Men said: I see the Dodgers, and possibly the Mets as the only players for Darvish. If the Cubs have a total rebuild, they will want to couple Darvish with Hayward, and those two teams are the only two with the ability and possible desire to eat that level of salary and related “luxury” tax heading into 2021. If it’s a pure baseball deal for Darvish, I’d quiver at what the Sox would have to give up. Madrigal would not be enough straight up, maybe a second piece. Expand Why would the Cubs want Madrigal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/17/2020 at 9:10 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: Darvish +100.. Lynn I dont have much interest trading a top prospect for 1 year. And Ithink we are vastly overvaluing Marquez. But if we aren't adn that's really his value, I don't want a part of it. Expand I agree. I think we would be giving up too much for a one year rental in Lynn unless we think we can sign him to a contract. Marquez is interesting but is he worth giving up assets for and someone that will be a difference maker for this team in the playoffs? I don’t think so. Edited November 17, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Don't Cubs have Nico Hoerner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:31 PM, Flash said: Don't Cubs have Nico Hoerner? Expand I think he can play short stop. But from what I saw, it didn't look like he had the arm strength (maybe they just aren't high on him though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:29 PM, maloney.adam said: Expand This is way too convenient. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Darvish and Heyward....if you ae giving them prospects add Bryant and remove Heyward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:04 PM, fathom said: There are a few teams that would take on Yu’s deal, so you’re going to have to give up a good amount. Expand Do you think a Madrigal, Thompson, and like Ty Johnson gets this done? Considering the cash involved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I've been banging the Darvish drum for over a month but Cubs will want pitching, most likely beginning with return of Cease. Plus...there will be strong competition for Darvish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:37 PM, smellysox said: Do you think a Madrigal, Thompson, and like Ty Johnson gets this done? Considering the cash involved Expand Why would the Cubs include cash to move Darvish? He's a bargain at $20/yr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:41 PM, Flash said: Why would the Cubs include cash to move Darvish? He's a bargain at $20/yr. Expand I don't. I think we would take on his salary. That's why I was hoping it then would mean lighter return of prospects to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:44 PM, smellysox said: I don't. I think we would take on his salary. That's why I was hoping it then would mean lighter return of prospects to them. Expand Of course we would take on his salary. Its quite reasonable. My sense is Cubs will want to package him with a less reasonable salary like Kimbrel, in which case we might insist on cash back. I could see Darvish and Kimbrel plus cash for Cease and fillers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:38 PM, Flash said: I've been banging the Darvish drum for over a month but Cubs will want pitching, most likely beginning with return of Cease. Plus...there will be strong competition for Darvish. Expand I'd much rather lead a package with Cease than Madrigal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) On 11/17/2020 at 9:37 PM, smellysox said: Do you think a Madrigal, Thompson, and like Ty Johnson gets this done? Considering the cash involved Expand Nope...a team like the Angels could offer a much better prospect like Marsh. Cubs have no use at all for Madrigal. Mets and Twins would also be interested in Yu, IMO. Edited November 17, 2020 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:54 PM, fathom said: Nope...a team like the Angels could offer a much better prospect like Marsh. Cubs have no use at all for Madrigal. Expand I don't think many would consider Marsh a "much better prospect".. Maybe a better prospect to some, but much better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:53 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd much rather lead a package with Cease than Madrigal Expand If we're getting pitching in return then me, too. We're ready to win now. Darvish is the absolute best case scenario for what Cease might become during our window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:56 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I don't think many would consider Marsh a "much better prospect".. Maybe a better prospect to some, but much better? Expand For what the Cubs would want, they would prefer Marsh over Madrigal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:53 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd much rather lead a package with Cease than Madrigal Expand So would the Cubs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 9:53 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd much rather lead a package with Cease than Madrigal Expand I would to. But I'd like to give our new pitching coach a shot at working with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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