Johno Posted October 1, 2020 Share Posted October 1, 2020 Do the White Sox role the dice and give either Rutherford or Adolfo a shot at starting in right fielder For the 2021 season or do we absolutely go out and land a free agent? I’m almost wondering if off season spending needs to be for starting pitching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Really neither has done enough for that. That doesn't mean they can't ever but they need to earn it by tearing up the minors first. The sox aren't in a position anymore were anyone who does halfway decent in the minors eventually gets called up, at this point prospects need to earn it because there aren't as many free spots anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Perhaps most important, how do we about shedding Mazara? non-tender? trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Joc Pederson seems like an obvious FA target, even f Castellanos opts out (which I doubt), don't think CWS can afford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 I'd target Tauschman (NYY), Benintendi (Bos) or Nimmo and dangle Cease or Lopez plus sweetener. All LH hitters capable of playing all 3 OF positions. Engel can platoon vs. certain matchups. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 Starling Marte depending on price... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 the best thing that Adolfo and Rutherford can do is play great and become trade pieces for bullpen/5th starter help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 2, 2020 Share Posted October 2, 2020 15 hours ago, Johno said: Do the White Sox role the dice and give either Rutherford or Adolfo a shot at starting in right fielder For the 2021 season or do we absolutely go out and land a free agent? I’m almost wondering if off season spending needs to be for starting pitching? No. If it is anyone, it will be Engel and Garcia. The next level guys are probably September arrivals at soonest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 12:16 AM, ChiSoxJon said: Perhaps most important, how do we about shedding Mazara? non-tender? trade? Mazara has the same value in a trade as I would.. You non-tender him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 I wonder if they are bringing back Mazara. He was really bad but if Hahn thinks it was just a health or mechanics issue he might bring him back and least give him spring and a couple weeks to see if he can bounce back to his 17-18 level Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: I wonder if they are bringing back Mazara. He was really bad but if Hahn thinks it was just a health or mechanics issue he might bring him back and least give him spring and a couple weeks to see if he can bounce back to his 17-18 level I can't see them bringing him back at an arbitration price. They might well non-tender and resign him cheaper, but not at something like $6 or 7 million. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 5, 2020 Share Posted October 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: I wonder if they are bringing back Mazara. He was really bad but if Hahn thinks it was just a health or mechanics issue he might bring him back and least give him spring and a couple weeks to see if he can bounce back to his 17-18 level And if/when that doesn’t work, what’s our fall-back plan? The reality is they’re going to add a different RF because they can’t risk rolling the dice on Mazara when he’s entering his last year of team control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 6, 2020 Share Posted October 6, 2020 Joc is a boring yet realistic and completely cromulent choice. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Blackout Friday said: Joc is a boring yet realistic and completely cromulent choice. Take him over Mazara at this point though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 9 hours ago, sox71 said: Take him over Mazara at this point though. But the odds of Pederson producing 1.5-2 fWAR for an entire 2021 season, compared to Mazara? If they spend the entire budget on Springer, they’re only going to have room for reclamation pitching prospects. At best, you get someone like Gausman if you buy Springer at peak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted October 7, 2020 Share Posted October 7, 2020 (edited) I'm fine with a 100 wrc+, 1.5-2 war guy in RF. Could Engel be that guy? He had a really good season but it was a small sample and he was protected (only playing in favorable spots). There was a contact and power increase but the k/bb rate is still bad and the hard hit rate while improved is still below average at 33% (I think average is around 35%). Fangraphs projections still have him at a terrible 70-75wrc+. I still think the Mazara Engel platoon was a great idea by hahn which just hasn't worked. I think the Sox should try the same again, get a lefty who can hit righties at a 110 clip and play Engel against lefties. That is not the ideal solution of course, we all would like to see a superstar but it is financially feasible. Edited October 7, 2020 by Dominikk85 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/1/2020 at 10:25 PM, ChiSoxJon said: Joc Pederson seems like an obvious FA target, even f Castellanos opts out (which I doubt), don't think CWS can afford Pederson has a certain "aura" about him that a lot of teams do not want to touch. He isn't very well liked by either players or coaches from what I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 29 minutes ago, The Hawk said: Pederson has a certain "aura" about him that a lot of teams do not want to touch. He isn't very well liked by either players or coaches from what I've seen. His teammates loved him I thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 (edited) On 10/21/2020 at 1:59 PM, fathom said: His teammates loved him I thought I'm not 100% sure but his name always comes out in them dangling him as being "available" and that same kind of thing happens when there is a bit of disapproval in the clubhouse. He's had family problems also which are supposed to be based on a medical condition for one of his children and/or his wife. But the bottom line is that whatever is going on, he has spent a lot of time away from the team and when he has played, he hasn't produced at all this year and is useless against left handed pitchers. I know that I wouldn't trade for this guy and give up anyone good as a prospect. He's not cheap either. As an update. I found out the other day that Pederson is liked by his teammates. I was wrong about that. Turns out that he has a brother who I believe has Downs Syndrome and Pederson is a wonderful advocate for his brother and tends to him a lot which his teammates have seen and love him for. I also learned that Pederson has a very young son who has required a lot of medical care for as has his wife which has required him to be away from the team quite a bit. I thought I'd clear that up with the additional information that I just found out about. Edited October 24, 2020 by The Hawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johno Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 Is it possible that Rick Hahn is not looking to sign one of the bigger right field free agents because Oscar Colas is officially signing in January and they believe he’s ready to step in no later than 2022? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Johno said: Is it possible that Rick Hahn is not looking to sign one of the bigger right field free agents because Oscar Colas is officially signing in January and they believe he’s ready to step in no later than 2022? I very seriously doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Does Adolfo even have a chance to make an MLB roster soon? Colas would be an awesome pick up, by the way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 40 minutes ago, knightni said: Does Adolfo even have a chance to make an MLB roster soon? Colas would be an awesome pick up, by the way. He's going to need to have a big year, because we lose our extension on his rights. He's going to be rule 5 fodder very soon if he's middling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 3 hours ago, knightni said: Does Adolfo even have a chance to make an MLB roster soon? Colas would be an awesome pick up, by the way. Not with us I'd assume.. Someone else, maybe a flyer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 hours ago, bmags said: He's going to need to have a big year, because we lose our extension on his rights. He's going to be rule 5 fodder very soon if he's middling. He's on our 40 man roster.. Thus no rule 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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