TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:22 PM, Tony said: Taking rivalry out of the equation........if Bill Belichick was available to be hired by your favorite NFL team....you're saying no because "integrity?" lol Expand You just compared Hinch to the best coach in football's history. Belichick also wasn't a part of the biggest cheating scandal in the sport in decades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:21 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I for one didn't bash the Astros too much because I use my own brain and assume many teams (if not most) were also cheating in similar fashions.. They just got caught. I want Hinch. Expand You use your brain, and it makes you just assume? Yikes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 5:46 PM, Yearnin' for Yermin said: You'd think all the people concerned about integrity would have stopped watching before this season considered we signed Dallas Keuchel. Expand The White Sox have one of the all time biggest baseball scandals. Why follow the team? We have also been accused of cheating ourselves. Not to mention, an owner who allegedly wants to finish on second. Why follow this team? If Hinch can get us a title or three, I couldn't care less if he acknowledges his wrong and doesn't do it again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:30 PM, TaylorStSox said: You just compared Hinch to the best coach in football's history. Belichick also wasn't a part of the biggest cheating scandal in the sport in decades. Expand Bill was a part of many of the biggest cheating scandals for his sport. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:30 PM, TaylorStSox said: You just compared Hinch to the best coach in football's history. Belichick also wasn't a part of the biggest cheating scandal in the sport in decades. Expand ehhh. Belichek was a part of MULTIPLE large cheating scandals... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:33 PM, SonofaRoache said: The White Sox have one of the all time biggest baseball scandals. Why follow the team? We have also been accused of cheating ourselves. Not to mention, an owner who allegedly wants to finish on second. Why follow this team? If Hinch can get us a title or three, I couldn't care less if he acknowledges his wrong and doesn't do it again. Expand Comparing a scandal from literally over 100 years ago to a scandal from last year is just a tad dubious. Just a tad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:37 PM, Squirmin' for Yermin said: ehhh. Belichek was a part of MULTIPLE large cheating scandals... Expand Nothing that comes close to the Astros though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:40 PM, TaylorStSox said: Comparing a scandal from literally over 100 years ago to a scandal from last year is just a tad dubious. Just a tad. Expand So the allegations of us sign stealing and JR wanting to finish second were over 100 years ago? As a fan of this team I'm more concerned about an owner self sabotaging the team than I am of sign stealing players not being controlled by a coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:41 PM, TaylorStSox said: Nothing that comes close to the Astros though. Expand Lol okay. The man was spying on other teams practices with cameras. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:43 PM, SonofaRoache said: So the allegations of us sign stealing and JR wanting to finish second were over 100 years ago? As a fan of this team I'm more concerned about an owner self sabotaging the team than I am of sign stealing players not being controlled by a coach. Expand The allegation of us cheating is slightly different than the one that was actually proven by MLB with multiple penalties. The JR thing is just stupid, like too stupid to acknowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:44 PM, Tony said: You aren’t answering the question. If you are so anti-cheater, why is BB ok but not someone else who has cheated? Some cheating is OK if you win a lot? Expand Of course I'm answering the question. Your comparison was really damn lazy. Hinch is no Belichick and what Hinch was involved in was way worse. There's no comparison. There are degrees here. I also don't want to execute people for speeding and jaywalking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oneofthemikes Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:05 PM, YourWhatHurts said: Sounds like yo mamma could do just fine with the White Sox. Maybe we should hire yo mamma. Expand Whatever floats your boat, man. But if that's the direction you are wanting to take the franchise, we may have wanted to stick with Ricky. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) On 10/12/2020 at 6:05 PM, TaylorStSox said: I don't cheer for Dallas either. Fuck em both. Expand Then you kinda aren't cheering for your own team. Also, you are kind of exposing yourself by basically suggesting that having one cheater would equal no integrity while throwing out your own argument with BB because... apparently his cheating wasn't as bad. Lol. Gimme Hinch all day. Edited October 12, 2020 by KonerkoFan1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 I'm all for Sandy Alomar Jr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:30 PM, TaylorStSox said: Belichick also wasn't a part of the biggest cheating scandal in the sport in decades. Expand Uh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:50 PM, KonerkoFan1 said: Then you kinda aren't cheering for your own team. Also, you are kind of exposing yourself by basically suggesting that having one cheater would equal no integrity while throwing out your own argument with BB because... apparently his cheating wasn't as bad. Lol. Gimme Hinch all day. Expand I didn't watch any Sox games this year. You can pull my fan card or whatever. I don't really care. Fandom is voluntary. Again, there are degrees. What Hinch did is irredeemable, imo. This is why laws are applied differently based on severity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 (edited) On 10/12/2020 at 6:57 PM, TaylorStSox said: I didn't watch any Sox games this year. You can pull my fan card or whatever. I don't really care. Fandom is voluntary. Again, there are degrees. What Hinch did is irredeemable, imo. This is why laws are applied differently based on severity. Expand Again, why is one (multiple, actually) ok and another is not. Cheating is cheating. "Degrees" are for meaningful paperwork and repercussions. You either have a principle or you don't. Pick a street. Edited October 12, 2020 by KonerkoFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:03 PM, KonerkoFan1 said: Again, why is one (multiple, actually) ok and another is not. Cheating is cheating. "Degrees" are for meaningful paperwork and repercussions. You either have a principle or you don't. Pick a street. Expand There are, like, a lot of philosophers that do not agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:03 PM, KonerkoFan1 said: Again, why is one (multiple, actually) ok and another is not. Cheating is cheating. "Degrees" are for meaningful paperwork and repercussions. You either have a principle or you don't. Pick a street. Expand This is beyond dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:07 PM, mqr said: There are, like, a lot of philosophers that do not agree with you. Expand Do you really want to have this discussion? Fine. What is a principle? It's definitely not, "This cheater is so bad and it's beneath me and my integrity to have him but this other one's cheating was (IMO) less severe so that's alright." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeGetzUs Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 5:21 PM, southsider2k5 said: Hahn also mentioned it could be someone on a staff that is still playing in the playoffs. Expand Joe Espada would be a play I could see the Sox making. Checks the box of Spanish speaking, winning caliber type and doesn’t draw the limelight like hinch and cora would. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:09 PM, TaylorStSox said: This is beyond dumb. Expand What an incredibly insightful counterpoint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 6:16 PM, Chisoxfn said: I agree - I think Scioscia goes to a team in rebuild mode vs. a team like the Sox and even than I don't know whether Mike is interested in managing anymore. Part of it may just be because he had a long run calling the shots and in the new era that flexibility rarely exists. I imagine they are going to move pretty swiftly in hiring a replacement. Expand I gotta think that the Sox aren't going to go out and bring in a guy who is known for not cooperating with the front office. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 On 10/12/2020 at 7:10 PM, KonerkoFan1 said: What an incredibly insightful counterpoint. Expand Your post was so illogical that it really doesn't deserve a counterpoint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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