turnin' two Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 10 hours ago, The Hawk said: I don't think that Roberts is a above average manager at all, Particularly regarding managing a pitching staff. I think Roberts does exactly what his front office tells him to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 33 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I wrote about the manager search for today and some of the actual candidates: https://www.southsidesox.com/2020/10/22/21524486/white-sox-job-a-desirable-destination-for-managerial-candidates Great stuff! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 39 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I wrote about the manager search for today and some of the actual candidates: https://www.southsidesox.com/2020/10/22/21524486/white-sox-job-a-desirable-destination-for-managerial-candidates Had not seen the part about the FO and Ricky after sox retaliated against Contreras. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 15 minutes ago, bmags said: Had not seen the part about the FO and Ricky after sox retaliated against Contreras. Yeah they apparently weren't pleased. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 11 minutes ago, bmags said: Had not seen the part about the FO and Ricky after sox retaliated against Contreras. That was interesting. I'm also surprised that the author of that piece didn't say that Sandy Alomar was a candidate. Perhaps, even though he retired as a player not very long ago, he's considered "old school" and not analytical enough. I just hope that Hahn doesn't get too carried away with analytics in his quest for a manager. To me, that stuff can be handled by a coach and staff. The biggest thing to me about being a manager is handling the clubhouse along with setting clear yet fair rules and making sure that everyone is on the same page. Renteria had some very good qualities but he just did not know how to manage a pitching staff to my satisfaction and it was obvious at the end that Cooper was frustrated by his own inability to "coach up" the new breed of pitching talent that was contending against the newer breeds of launch angle hitters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah they apparently weren't pleased. That’s....great news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 If the White Sox had a bunch of Harold Baines like actors on their team, KW and RH probably don't get upset when Contreras gets hit after a pretty sweet bat flip. But they have guys that do the same thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 56 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah they apparently weren't pleased. Definitely seemed to be a sign of straining to find anything to get the team to rally around, but unfortunately it went against everything the culture the players were trying to build in the league. (also I gotta say you could probably create quite a bit of buzz by pulling that out and promoting it, but I respect if you think that would blow things out of proportion) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah they apparently weren't pleased. It was pretty embarrassing. If Ricky was behind it I feel better about it, actually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yeah they apparently weren't pleased. I am glad to hear that. Goes against everything we are trying to promote. Also why give away a free base just get back at him? Throwing something at somebody because they “showed you up” is very childish. Plus that was an epic bat flip. Baseball needs more of those. Also a better way to “get them back” would be having a bigger better bat flip... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: I wrote about the manager search for today and some of the actual candidates: https://www.southsidesox.com/2020/10/22/21524486/white-sox-job-a-desirable-destination-for-managerial-candidates Dude, what a fantastic fucking article. Hands down the best piece on the manager hunt that I’ve come across and that’s saying something given how many beat writers follow the team. Well done and definitely keep it up! It’s nice to see SSS restore some of its past glory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, bmags said: Had not seen the part about the FO and Ricky after sox retaliated against Contreras. I still don't think it was just due to the bat flip. The series before that one Contreras was jawing and acting like a 7 year old. He was also probably one of the ones continually screaming like little league players from the dugout. It was obnoxious hearing it on TV, so I'm sure the Sox were sick of that shit too. The bat flip was just the straw that broke the camels back. It was probably more from what was said the series before and the Cubs bench acting like fucking children and they just had enough of it. I could be wrong, but a simple bat flip doesn't seem like the thing that Ricky would have someone plunked for, all things considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 I know this has come up in relation to how Hinch should have handled himself, but Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted October 22, 2020 Share Posted October 22, 2020 6 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Dude, what a fantastic fucking article. Hands down the best piece on the manager hunt that I’ve come across and that’s saying something given how many beat writers follow the team. Well done and definitely keep it up! It’s nice to see SSS restore some of its past glory! Thanks for reading man. I appreciate it 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 ? https://chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/white-sox/2020/10/22/21528824/white-sox-managerial-search-under-way-tony-la-russa?__twitter_impression=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: ? https://chicago.suntimes.com/platform/amp/white-sox/2020/10/22/21528824/white-sox-managerial-search-under-way-tony-la-russa?__twitter_impression=true ? Plagiarism much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, hi8is said: ? Plagiarism much? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 I wonder how the interview with La Russa went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCCWS Posted October 23, 2020 Share Posted October 23, 2020 FWIW--Maybe some other names that Hahn will check out. Will Venable and Don Kelly supposedly interviewed w Red Sox. George Lombard is another name on their list after WS. https://www.boston.com/sports/boston-red-sox/2020/10/22/red-sox-manager-will-venable-don-kelly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 If We only had a coach like Dave ROberts we WOULDA BEEN so much better: Roberts tells Baez he's done after the 6th. Then changed his mind after he already sat and relaxed and put him back out there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasonxctf Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 What’s Tony Pena up to these days? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 8:54 AM, Y2Jimmy0 said: I wrote about the manager search for today and some of the actual candidates: https://www.southsidesox.com/2020/10/22/21524486/white-sox-job-a-desirable-destination-for-managerial-candidates Fuld and Geren are interesting to me and I hope either or both end up in the organization even if not as manager this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/22/2020 at 7:32 PM, maloney.adam said: I wonder how the interview with La Russa went? It went well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 On 10/21/2020 at 12:39 PM, Tony said: I'm saying in certain cases, like the Twins in 2018...you can bring on a manager with no actual experience like a Rocco Baldelli (I know he did a little coaching in Tampa) or someone like Craig Counsell with the Brewers. I can get behind that concept depending on where the team currently stands and what expectations are over the next 3-4 seasons. For the White Sox in 2020, you can't bring in someone with zero experience managing. You fired Ricky because of how he handled the team down the stretch in a playoff race, and how he handled in-game decisions during the series with the A's. Because those were the issues you fired Ricky for........you need to bring someone in that is strong in those areas. And there is simply no way to know if someone like Sam Fuld is capable of managing under pressure. Given the Sox roster and their aspirations over the next few years, you don't have the luxury of finding out. The hire has to be a veteran manager. I think Ricky got sacked for losing it with the umpires during that bad stretch, more than anything else. He wasn't a steady hand at the wheel when they needed one. And you're right about a veteran. Bochy is the obvious answer to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Hawk Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 11 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: If We only had a coach like Dave ROberts we WOULDA BEEN so much better: I'm out here in LA LA Land and have many Dodger fan friends. I kept saying that the Dodgers blow it every year because they never have gotten a closer worth a crap. Not to mention Dave Roberts is a putz. Roberts tells Baez he's done after the 6th. Then changed his mind after he already sat and relaxed and put him back out there lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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