fathom Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 I was as skeptical about what he would say in this press conference as anyone, but he’s said everything I’ve wanted to hear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:07 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: "Observational Analytics" Someone please blow my head off. Guy pushing back against in-game analytics already. Expand Kevin Cash did so much damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:07 PM, Tony said: #ChangeTheGameButSincerely Expand We need a measure for a sincere bat flip versus a fake one. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 Well, bye Ron 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:09 PM, southsider2k5 said: We need a measure for a sincere bat flip versus a fake one. Expand This sounds like more analytics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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flavum Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:09 PM, southsider2k5 said: We need a measure for a sincere bat flip versus a fake one. Expand Willson Contreras, very sincere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:07 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: "Observational Analytics" Someone please blow my head off. Guy pushing back against in-game analytics already. Expand You are very smart. Let's be real here though, he is right to a degree. Analytics are very important but we need a guy who can say, "wait a minute, in this moment, a gut decision makes sense." For instance, you have to take into account if a pitcher is tired or frustrated. Is a player likely to get hurt playing defense poorly. A guy may hit a pitcher well in his career, but is he in a big slump now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quin Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 But also, reading people's recaps, he answered the kneeling question decently enough. Fegan is the bomb. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 12:50 PM, southsider2k5 said: He can do what he wants, but if he negatively impacts the play of key players, is it worth it? If TA and Abreu ask for trades, is it worth it? Why can't we find a manager who fits the personality of this bunch? Expand It's clearly not worth it and in the case of the anthem I fully support anyone who kneels. We had a manager that fit the personality of the bunch. Why did we let him go? Now take those reasons, are they worth more or less than personality that fits the bunch? The team clearly believes those reasons outweighed supporting protests and parted ways. I also believe a good manager gains the trusts and confidence of the players while maintaining some control of the clubhouse. I don't think a manager could do that and fight the anthem protest and would be stupid to try. But there may be other issues where he should set limits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:10 PM, Kyyle23 said: Well, bye Ron Expand This hiring process was not done in a fair manner. JR totally undermined Hahn and made the decision for me. If the hiring process was done fairly and not totally rigged by Reinsdorf, I would leave here for good. Unfortunately it wasn't done fairly and I won't be honoring it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:10 PM, Kyyle23 said: Well, bye Ron Expand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baron Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:12 PM, Quin said: But also, reading people's recaps, he answered the kneeling question decently enough. Fegan is the bomb. Expand He answered it well. Hey my grandfather sounded like an old bat when talking about kneeling. But he's changed over the past few years on it. It can happen. He sounded sincere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 7:59 PM, wegner said: Hahn is not walking away from this team that he built. Expand Yeah, I don't think so either. Jerry had all the leverage; "We let you rebuild Rick, now it's my turn!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:11 PM, SonofaRoache said: You are very smart. Let's be real here though, he is right to a degree. Analytics are very important but we need a guy who can say, "wait a minute, in this moment, a gut decision makes sense." For instance, you have to take into account if a pitcher is tired or frustrated. Is a player likely to get hurt playing defense poorly. A guy may hit a pitcher well in his career, but is he in a big slump now? Expand Analytics generally say you don't buy into that as the sample sizes are too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:13 PM, Yearnin' for Yermin said: This hiring process was not done in a fair manner. JR totally undermined Hahn and made the decision for me. If the hiring process was done fairly and not totally rigged by Reinsdorf, I would leave here for good. Unfortunately it wasn't done fairly and I won't be honoring it. Expand We don't have to worry about you honoring anything. Bye ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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maloney.adam Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) I know Hahn is pissed right now and I don’t blame him but he’s got some work to do this offseason that may be more important than the managerial hire. He’s got to finish what he started with the roster. Edited October 29, 2020 by maloney.adam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:13 PM, Yearnin' for Yermin said: This hiring process was not done in a fair manner. JR totally undermined Hahn and made the decision for me. If the hiring process was done fairly and not totally rigged by Reinsdorf, I would leave here for good. Unfortunately it wasn't done fairly and I won't be honoring it. Expand This might be the best post i've seen in the history of Soxtalk. I LOL'd at what you did. I hope I don't see that exact same comments next week though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:07 PM, wegner said: I'm not sure that bat drop that Grandal does is sincere enough...that is right out in the LaRussa administration!!! Expand Why even watch the press conference then? No matter what he says people are gonna complain. If what he is saying is true, and i'll take him at his word, he will be much more progressive on the field than we thought. That is a good thing. He is here and nothing anyone can do about it. All we can do is hope our concerns are alleviated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:13 PM, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yeah, I don't think so either. Jerry had all the leverage; "We let you rebuild Rick, now it's my turn!" Expand Cohen is going to hire him to be Prez of Baseball Ops to spite Jerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) On 10/29/2020 at 7:59 PM, mqr said: Saying he "doesn't have a racist bone in his body" and naming a bunch of black guys was pretty weird, but he said he supports the player's decisions. Expand "No one has done more for black players, besides maybe Abe Lincoln and Jackie Robinson, than me" Edited October 29, 2020 by Look at Ray Ray Run 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 On 10/29/2020 at 8:08 PM, fathom said: I was as skeptical about what he would say in this press conference as anyone, but he’s said everything I’ve wanted to hear. Expand yeah they were at least self-aware. On the other hand, it looked like tricked hahn into leaving the office for takeout, then locked him out and he spent the last three days pounding the door to come in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted October 29, 2020 Share Posted October 29, 2020 (edited) On 10/29/2020 at 8:14 PM, Kyyle23 said: We don't have to worry about you honoring anything. Bye ? Expand I hope Chisoxfn undermines you like Jerry did to Rick. He agrees with me! Edited October 29, 2020 by Yearnin' for Yermin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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