CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/astros-heckler-megaphone-alcs-cheating-scandal-balcony-petco-park https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/sports/baseball/astros-heckler-megaphone.html?smid=tw-share This is national story that's been in USA Today and NY Times. Did the SunTimes or Tribune write anything about this guy Tim Kantner ? Thanks to the guys in the ALCS thread in Diamond Club for finding this. SInce it was a Sox fan I figured it should go in Pale Hose Talk. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: https://ftw.usatoday.com/2020/10/astros-heckler-megaphone-alcs-cheating-scandal-balcony-petco-park https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/15/sports/baseball/astros-heckler-megaphone.html?smid=tw-share This is national story that's been in USA Today and NY Times. Did the SunTimes or Tribune write anything about this guy Tim Kantner ? Thanks to the guys in the ALCS thread in Diamond Club for finding this. SInce it was a Sox fan I figured it should go in Pale Hose Talk. I don't think the Astros are gonna get any sympathy from anyone. They are SO lucky this year of all years we couldn't have any fans in the stands, they were going to get absolutely eviscerated. Edited October 18, 2020 by KonerkoFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Legend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 That is so awesome!. Sometimes I'm really proud to be a sox fan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wegner Posted October 18, 2020 Share Posted October 18, 2020 Attention: Tim Kanter is a steely eyed missile man!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Awesome! Heckling is a dying art. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skooch Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This guy's going to look like a real ass if the Sox hire Hinch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 Goodness, it’s a game. It was three years ago. Get over it, dude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Dallas Kong said: Goodness, it’s a game. It was three years ago. Get over it, dude. I don’t know many games that deal in billions. It’s a business. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, Blackout Friday said: I don’t know many games that deal in billions. It’s a business. Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go. Why is it silly? A bunch of players conducted one of the most elaborate cheating schemes in baseball history and weren’t punished at all despite being caught. What the fuck is wrong with people holding them accountable? I think it’s silly you think we should all pretend it didn’t happen or this is some kind of “moral preening”. Edited October 19, 2020 by Chicago White Sox 5 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 This is pretty genius of a heckling. It is also silly to think that players didn't get cheated out of money here. There are a couple of careers that may have been destroyed along the way of guys who got blown up as pitchers by this scam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Zelig Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 8 hours ago, Dallas Kong said: Sure, but it’s not like the Astros cheated Clayton Kershaw out of his pension and caused him to starve to death. They “stole” a championship ring from him. Should they have done it? Just like the ‘roid guys, no. But the endless, unforgiving moral preening towards them is a bit silly. Nobody died, let it go. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 5 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: This is pretty genius of a heckling. It is also silly to think that players didn't get cheated out of money here. There are a couple of careers that may have been destroyed along the way of guys who got blown up as pitchers by this scam. It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 14 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. good word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 19, 2020 Share Posted October 19, 2020 48 minutes ago, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. It isn't about what he said, it is about how he said it. This guy figured out how to get into a series where there was no admission to the games. He figured out that in a normal playoff situation, there would be 40,000 people hanging on every single pitch, and his voice would never get heard, even with a bullhorn. He also figured out how to get national media attention drawn back to the Astros, and how to make the Astros have to actually hear it, and talk about it. Again. No one else has managed to achieve any of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 They better interview this Sox fan if the Sox hire the manager who cheated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 21, 2020 Author Share Posted October 21, 2020 On 10/18/2020 at 5:22 PM, skooch said: This guy's going to look like a real ass if the Sox hire Hinch. Or is it the Sox who will look like ass ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hibbard Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 (edited) On 10/19/2020 at 4:07 PM, Dallas Kong said: It’s a game. It’s supposed to be fun. We’re not talking about a genocide here. Want to heckle them? Go for it, but make it fun. Bring a metal trash can out on the balcony, crank up your megaphone, and bang on that thing in senseless patterns. Or shout things like, “Give me a trash can and I’ll make my grandma hit better than Carlos Correa.” This dude just stood up there and blared out, “Jose Altuve cheated. Shame on you, Jose.” What’s genius about that? It’s the same sort of turgid hectoring you’d find at a political protest these days. I’ve seen this on message boards before and I really don’t understand the “it’s just a game” or “it’s just a band” or “it’s just a movie” angle. This entire board is about “just a game.” Using similar logic, anyone could respond to any opinion you post on any topic with “it’s just a game, get over it.” How does that get us anywhere? None of this is life and death. Edited October 21, 2020 by Greg Hibbard 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Greg Hibbard said: I’ve seen this on message boards before and I really don’t understand the “it’s just a game” or “it’s just a band” or “it’s just a movie” angle. This entire board is about “just a game.” Using similar logic, anyone could respond to any opinion you post on any topic with “it’s just a game, get over it.” How does that get us anywhere? None of this is life and death. Because it is just a game. Heckling them is fine, but don’t be so serious about it. Reducing your chants to “shame on you” or wondering how to explain the hiring of AJ Hinch to your children is jumping the shark. In the midst of 2020, we can all see that there are much more important things to get worked up about. Carlos Correa banging on trash cans to send signals to a teammate is douchey, but it didn’t lead to anyone getting stuffed into a cattle car or starving to death or otherwise having their human rights violated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 “Shame on you” is funny. They aren’t swearing or calling them names. He didn’t say they are bad people. Shame on you is just a funny way of heckling them in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Dallas Kong said: Because it is just a game. Heckling them is fine, but don’t be so serious about it. Reducing your chants to “shame on you” or wondering how to explain the hiring of AJ Hinch to your children is jumping the shark. In the midst of 2020, we can all see that there are much more important things to get worked up about. Carlos Correa banging on trash cans to send signals to a teammate is douchey, but it didn’t lead to anyone getting stuffed into a cattle car or starving to death or otherwise having their human rights violated. None of these things are mutually exclusive. You can be upset about political situations in this country and still have the perspective on how much less important baseball is, while still being shitty about the Astros cheating. No one is putting it ahead of actual life or death situations here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grinder Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 Taunting for the most case is harmless albeit silly. I used to taunt my cub fans until they got good, now I cant really say much as they have strung together more consectutive playoff appearances than we can ever dream of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted October 21, 2020 Share Posted October 21, 2020 People aren't dying so it's cool. Such a weak deflection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted October 22, 2020 Author Share Posted October 22, 2020 4 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: None of these things are mutually exclusive. You can be upset about political situations in this country and still have the perspective on how much less important baseball is, while still being shitty about the Astros cheating. No one is putting it ahead of actual life or death situations here. Yea I mean if we applied "it's just a game" why get upset or show emotion about any of this ? Why have a message board. Why the outcry about Rickey ? Everyone just shut up . It's just a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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