hogan873 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: I've had the feeling Mcconnell almost preferred Biden at this point. I honestly think he hated Trump McConnell is probably licking his black and blue lips at the prospect of controlling another Democratic president. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Even GA is down to +48k for Trump, or a 1% lead. Odds makers have Trump as a slight favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Hurtin Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 ? That would be something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Breaking News. Trump files lawsuit against all states that he is losing in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, greg775 said: I doubt that. The hatred of Trump totally envelopes America. Yes he has a zillion supporters but they for the most part are quiet. The media narrative that they are a bunch of thugs running amok beating people up is wrong. They may be shining their guns but for the most part have their guns locked away until needed. Trump hatred has been a daily occurence in media, sports, pretty much everywhere except one cable channel (Fox) and one broadcaster (Rush). I think Joe woulda won in a landslide even w/out COVID. The kinder, gentler, nice polite Joe was destined to win and win big against a more rude, crass Trump. Just my take. I hope and pray Joe brings the country together, stays healthy and wards off the ideas of more radical Demos. Best of luck to Joe! COVID took away Trump’s greatest strength- the economy. Yeah, the left would have ran on him being a racist asshole, but in a non-traumatized world where people were living the high life, they’d overlook that. With that gone, however, the racist asshole with a shitty economy is bound to lose to just about any alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Breaking News. Trump files lawsuit against all states that he is losing in. What a fucking scumbag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tony said: Fuck this scumbag too 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, joesaiditstrue said: I've had the feeling Mcconnell almost preferred Biden at this point. I honestly think he hated Trump Wouldn’t surprise me. I work with a lot of people I disagree with politically. We get along just fine and I consider them friends. However, I tend to avoid any loud mouthed, idiotic carnival barkers with racist and conspiratorial tendencies who might exist at my workplace. If I were Senate majority leader, I’m sure I’d behave the same way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) The biggest issue with trump is his resistance to good advice. His racist talk, lies, insults whatever but the biggest problem is that he isn't able to listen to good advice and either alienates or fires any smart people that were around him. Had he done all this crazy stupid talk but listened to experts especially on covid like for example merkel did in Germany trump would have easily been re elected. You can be a loud mouth, self absorbed ass but then you can't be incompetent too. His first 3 years he kinda lucked into being seen as somewhat competent in economy but then when a real challenge came he was not smart enough to listen to the experts and run a solid policy. Covid has stopped trump but it was not the virus but trump's terrible handling of it that killed him because such a crisis actually helps the leader if he does a semi decent job handling this. In europe you can see that too for example with merkel or the austrian chancellor too, they handled it well with rather restrictive measures and their popularity grew. Trump didn't even act badly, he did nothing and made jokes about the virus and that is not what a leader does. Edited November 5, 2020 by Dominikk85 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Tony said: That is the most punchable lying face I will ever see. Kayleigh polishing up her resume for a Jiffy Lube assistant manager gig. Edited November 5, 2020 by pcq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 About 150k uncounted votes in Georgia and Joe needs about 2/3 to win the state. Seems like almost all of them are mail-in which should work in Biden’s favor. Should come down to the wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dominikk85 said: The biggest issue with trump is his resistance to good advice. His racist talk, lies, insults whatever but the biggest problem is that he isn't able to listen to good advice and either alienates or fires any smart people that were around him. Had he done all this crazy stupid talk but listened to experts especially on covid like for example merkel did in Germany trump would have easily been re elected. This is a good point. As a military member, his employment of Mattis, Kelly, McMaster, etc, was enormously popular throughout the force. Of course, he ended up dumping all of them in less than friendly circumstances. I don’t know the stats on it, or even where to find them, but I think he’d be the worst performing Republican amongst service members in a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, pcq said: That is the most punchable lying face I will ever see. I hate Trump too, but maybe we could take it easy on talking about how punchable female members of his staff are? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 hours ago, Balta1701 said: This is the version of the math I see. Biden needs a 68-32 split to overcome that deficit, so it’s at least still close. When I posted this, Biden needed 68% of the remaining estimated number of votes. As of right now, Biden needs about 65% of the remaining votes, with just under 150,000 to count. Margin now is 46,000. In other words...Biden was ahead of that pace for the last 85,000 ballots. At that pace, he wins Georgia tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUSTgottaBELIEVE Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: When I posted this, Biden needed 68% of the remaining estimated number of votes. As of right now, Biden needs about 65% of the remaining votes, with just under 150,000 to count. Margin now is 46,000. In other words...Biden was ahead of that pace for the last 85,000 ballots. At that pace, he wins Georgia tonight. Biden going to win GA, PA, NV, and AZ. Trump already knows. There’s a reason he filed lawsuits in GA and PA already. He’s going to lose a close race in both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: When I posted this, Biden needed 68% of the remaining estimated number of votes. As of right now, Biden needs about 65% of the remaining votes, with just under 150,000 to count. Margin now is 46,000. In other words...Biden was ahead of that pace for the last 85,000 ballots. At that pace, he wins Georgia tonight. Winning Georgia would be huge and would close another path for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pFOyR6dSoAjqSe6miIAnxUaQUIlc2cy8lybg-gWw-_I/htmlview? Tracking GA and PA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Winning Georgia would be huge and would close another path for Trump. It would end it for Trump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Ugh hours ago I said GA may turn out to be a sub 10k victory for Trump and it looks to be playing that way. Would have been nice to have 1 deep red state. I know its still possible but running out of votes. If Biden can get it to 150k or so at 90% that would be favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted November 5, 2020 Author Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Heads22 said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1pFOyR6dSoAjqSe6miIAnxUaQUIlc2cy8lybg-gWw-_I/htmlview? Tracking GA and PA Reading that, it looks like Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes to win PA. That seems quite possible based on what has been coming in today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Still 122k outstanding votes in Georgia, again, Biden just needs 2/3 of these to win the state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 1 minute ago, hogan873 said: Reading that, it looks like Biden would need 65% of the remaining votes to win PA. That seems quite possible based on what has been coming in today. It is extremely probable. He has been blowing that away consistently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chw42 Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Still 122k outstanding votes in Georgia, again, Biden just needs 2/3 of these to win the state Needs a little more, closer to 70% than 67%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 Results finalized by New Year's Day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted November 5, 2020 Share Posted November 5, 2020 4 hours ago, TaylorStSox said: Redefine workers. Late stage capitalism can't exist in an automated world. When Trump won in 2016, I thought the best way was to retrain workers. Make coal miners change to a trade on alternative energy production, retrain workers in office jobs to work in health care or maybe train truck drivers to code. But then I did some research on retraining programs and questioned how much impact they had and wondered who would be in the best position to pay for retraining. An incentivized tax credit program could work as long as workers seek employment and work in that new industry. UBI would be interesting, although I don’t know how well it would be funded and last over the long term. I don’t know how much the private sector will contribute to upskilling or retraining employees and how short or long term automation will last when it comes to losing jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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