scs787 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 14 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I do not. I expect them to have a bottom end top 10 payroll and they're below league average. I'd feel a lot better if the Sox could get Giolito locked up past 2023 right now. Otherwise, there's a lot riding on Kopech/Crochet/Cease. Right now their payroll is 16th in MLB with Giolito due for an extension. They brought in dudes high school coach to be pitching coach. I'd be shocked if they dont get an extension done. Like others have said 85% of free agents are still available. I wouldn't be shocked if they end up in the top 10-12 in payroll. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 hours ago, Sox72 said: Keep posting. The “block” feature makes this board exponentially better. There are some great posters with fantastic insight. And you should look forward to engaging with them. The nice thing about the “block” is that you don’t have to look away with one eye open, tempted to take a peek. It filters out the garbage posters automatically. I have used it on several, and it’s part of the reason this is my most-visited website in my downtime. I've been on this board since high school and I'm 33 now, I don't think I've blocked a soul. Looking like I should take advantage of that feature. It's become a shit show here. This team is stacked and people are mad they filled their #8 or #9 hole with Adam Eaton who can still be a guy who puts up a .350+ OPS and can create a nice little dynamic with Madrigal to turn the lineup over. They also added a guy who finished in the top 5 in cy young voting just last year, to go with 2 other guys that finished in the top 5 in said voting. The Padres added 2 guys in the Cy Young conversation when the Sox have 3 guys in the same conversation. They dont have Clevenger for 2021 so their rotation past the top 2 is pretty questionable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 13 hours ago, Balta1701 said: But there was one guy, I think Santana, whose contract was not guaranteed that year and I think we paid out only a tiny fraction of it. It was the difference between wasting $55 and $52 million in 2019 or something like that. You're correct. I just looked it up. Baseball encyclopedia says Sox paid him $100,000 that year, then cut him. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 Congratulations to San Diego for recognzing what I said all along, if you are willing to take on dollars, the deals will literally never be better than what they are this winter. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 8 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Congratulations to San Diego for recognzing what I said all along, if you are willing to take on dollars, the deals will literally never be better than what they are this winter. Amazing that most deals that looks bad and "unmovable" is in fact, movable. Edited December 30, 2020 by manbearpuig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 We do not sign the top guys. Move on. No surprise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Whatever happened to Jay Mariotti. Is he teaching preschool? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, pcq said: Whatever happened to Jay Mariotti. Is he teaching preschool? He tried to power play the Sun Times by threatening to quit, and they let him. Then he moved on out west and never really got going again. A domestic violence allegation pretty much finished him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: He tried to power play the Sun Times by threatening to quit, and they let him. Then he moved on out west and never really got going again. A domestic violence allegation pretty much finished him off. Supposedly he was being considered for a job at ESPN 1000. I imagine since the White Sox moved there, JR is not going to let that happen. So JR does have his good qualities. Edited December 30, 2020 by Dick Allen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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oldsox Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 hours ago, pcq said: We do not sign the top guys. Move on. No surprise. Right. And, we kept Kopech and Vaughn. Can't wait to see how good these guys are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wisebri224 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 8 hours ago, scs787 said: I've been on this board since high school and I'm 33 now, I don't think I've blocked a soul. Looking like I should take advantage of that feature. It's become a shit show here. This team is stacked and people are mad they filled their #8 or #9 hole with Adam Eaton who can still be a guy who puts up a .350+ OPS and can create a nice little dynamic with Madrigal to turn the lineup over. They also added a guy who finished in the top 5 in cy young voting just last year, to go with 2 other guys that finished in the top 5 in said voting. The Padres added 2 guys in the Cy Young conversation when the Sox have 3 guys in the same conversation. They dont have Clevenger for 2021 so their rotation past the top 2 is pretty questionable. Lamet isn’t really questionable. Paddack has shown some MLB success as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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EloyJenkins Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Seeking MORE than 5/$150 million...Good luck dude. Now Sox quickly moving on makes a ton of sense. Hahn called up, agent said it's gonna take $150 to move to next phase and Hahn put on some lipstick and crossed Springers name off his kill list. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Free agency is going to go deep into May or June this year with the way things are going. Edited December 30, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 That is when the owners want to start the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Free agency is going to go deep into May or June this year with the way things are going. Considering opening day could be then as well, it isn't a surprise that this is dragging out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: That is when the owners want to start the season. 27 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Considering opening day could be then as well, it isn't a surprise that this is dragging out. Yeah I was just joking because it’s dragging right now. I’m thinking late February or March. Possibly April but that’s stretching it. Can you imagine though if it did drag out until May or June. This board would go crazy. Edited December 31, 2020 by maloney.adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 11 hours ago, scs787 said: I've been on this board since high school and I'm 33 now, I don't think I've blocked a soul. Looking like I should take advantage of that feature. It's become a shit show here. This team is stacked and people are mad they filled their #8 or #9 hole with Adam Eaton who can still be a guy who puts up a .350+ OPS and can create a nice little dynamic with Madrigal to turn the lineup over. They also added a guy who finished in the top 5 in cy young voting just last year, to go with 2 other guys that finished in the top 5 in said voting. The Padres added 2 guys in the Cy Young conversation when the Sox have 3 guys in the same conversation. They dont have Clevenger for 2021 so their rotation past the top 2 is pretty questionable. Wow, holy spin batman! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Springer is down to Mets and Blue Jays and is seeking 5 years and around 150 million: the Sox never had a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox80 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 5 minutes ago, chitownsportsfan said: Springer is down to Mets and Blue Jays and is seeking 5 years and around 150 million: the Sox never had a shot. For that price oh well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Multi year deals are not in the cards for most teams. Yes Covid is a real excuse. People who claimed Covid would not stop them are gone. Sox had three notable moves so far and one notorious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 7 minutes ago, pcq said: Multi year deals are not in the cards for most teams. Yes Covid is a real excuse. People who claimed Covid would not stop them are gone. Sox had three notable moves so far and one notorious. The Sox are not done making moves. It’s just slow right now but it’s not going to last forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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