Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 On Friday, the White Sox need to add players to the 40-man in order to protect them from the Rule 5 Draft. Jake Burger, Gavin Sheets, Tyler Johnson and Will Kincanon are the most likely. I wrote about it here: https://www.futuresox.com/2020/11/16/40-man-roster-decisions-and-2020-rule-5-draft-implications/ 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Good stuff. Could be wrong, and I am I'm guessing it would be about Tyler Johnson, but I don't think sox will claim anyone, nor anyone will be claimed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 Jake Burger is an interesting case. I wonder if this was the reason the Sox didn't share info from the remote site. I mean you make it as difficult as possible for teams to gather information on these guys so the picking them is even harder. Even if Jake Burger looked like he was expected to look when the Sox picked him, can you take up a 25/26 man roster space to take a chance on him, especially knowing you are probably picking at 1b/DH type. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Jake Burger is an interesting case. I wonder if this was the reason the Sox didn't share info from the remote site. I mean you make it as difficult as possible for teams to gather information on these guys so the picking them is even harder. Even if Jake Burger looked like he was expected to look when the Sox picked him, can you take up a 25/26 man roster space to take a chance on him, especially knowing you are probably picking at 1b/DH type. If Jake Burger gets selected in the rule 5 I'll eat a hat. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, bmags said: If Jake Burger gets selected in the rule 5 I'll eat a hat. If I had to bet, I would bet on Johnson being the most likely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 The other thing of note here is I wonder if the Sox are contemplating a trade mostly to open up roster slots for the guys they want to protect, knowing they are going to lose people to the Rule 5 or waivers anyway? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, bmags said: If Jake Burger gets selected in the rule 5 I'll eat a hat. I'll join you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 5 hours ago, bmags said: If Jake Burger gets selected in the rule 5 I'll eat a hat. I will eat your vomit from you throwing up said hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I will eat your vomit from you throwing up said hat. He never said his hat wasn't made of BBQ ribs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 minutes ago, Vulture said: He never said his hat wasn't made of BBQ ribs then it'll be a slighty more delicious bowl of vomit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 16, 2020 Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 hours ago, bmags said: If Jake Burger gets selected in the rule 5 I'll eat a hat. 6 hours ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: I'll join you. 37 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I will eat your vomit from you throwing up said hat. I suddenly want Jake to get picked. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenSox Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) Thanks for the analysis. If they are going to add some relievers, then they could go ahead and dump Cordero right now. And they should have moved one of those catchers in a trade before now. I'd like to see them keep those 2 pitchers that need protecting. Now that I think about it, it's less risky to leave a player off now and risk rule 5 than it is to add them to the 40 to protect against Rule 5, but then take them off later (where they would be on open waivers and not have to go onto the claiming team's 40 man). So there's no point in loading guys onto the 40 if you know you'll have to remove them later................................................. Edited November 17, 2020 by GreenSox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I’m just going to come out and say it, but the Sox better protect Jake Burger. Dude looks jacked as fuck in that second video. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 Jesus did he get in shape! Wooooow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I've always questioned Burger's heart, desire, dedication, and work ethic the second I saw how fucking fat he was when he was drafted. I've always wondered why the SOX let him off easy with respect to his workout regimen and nutrition; I've always suspected that his injuries could have been related to a lack of effort on his part in the gym. Congrats to him pulling off 25 pounds, but one has to wonder how/why a 21 year old with high round draft potential had to lose weight in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaDoc Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I could see a guy like him getting drafted. The drafting team is hoping for lightning in a bottle. Its low money if he has to be returned. Since he is not "their guy", they don't really care if he is overmatched and forever harmed. It is really kinda sad. I think for every guy who gets that chance and succeeds, many are harmed developmentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: I've always questioned Burger's heart, desire, dedication, and work ethic the second I saw how fucking fat he was when he was drafted. I've always wondered why the SOX let him off easy with respect to his workout regimen and nutrition; I've always suspected that his injuries could have been related to a lack of effort on his part in the gym. Congrats to him pulling off 25 pounds, but one has to wonder how/why a 21 year old with high round draft potential had to lose weight in the first place. You have an amazing talent to take a positive and crap all over it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 hour ago, BamaDoc said: I could see a guy like him getting drafted. The drafting team is hoping for lightning in a bottle. Its low money if he has to be returned. Since he is not "their guy", they don't really care if he is overmatched and forever harmed. It is really kinda sad. I think for every guy who gets that chance and succeeds, many are harmed developmentally. Yeah I agree. See how he looks in Spring Training and if he looks bad, you return him. Seems like a no-lose situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 15 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You have an amazing talent to take a positive and crap all over it. Hey, I did congratulate him for finally learning what "cardio" meant. But mostly, I'm embarrassed for a 25 year old who has basically nothing but time to work on his body and access to the best in medicine, training, and fitness, and money to hire a personal trainer or 10, YET he had 25 pounds to lose. I'm also embarrassed for this org, in that they spent the 11th pick, and all that money in signing bonuses, then couldn't figure out a way to make the child accountable to stop shoveling Dominos Pizza down his fat piehole. Here's hoping the child keeps his cardio up, and his hands off the KFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 3 minutes ago, Two-Gun Pete said: Hey, I did congratulate him for finally learning what "cardio" meant. But mostly, I'm embarrassed for a 25 year old who has basically nothing but time to work on his body and access to the best in medicine, training, and fitness, and money to hire a personal trainer or 10, YET he had 25 pounds to lose. I'm also embarrassed for this org, in that they spent the 11th pick, and all that money in signing bonuses, then couldn't figure out a way to make the child accountable to stop shoveling Dominos Pizza down his fat piehole. Here's hoping the child keeps his cardio up, and his hands off the KFC. That is pretty much what you do, you get upset and embarrassed, at pretty much everything. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two-Gun Pete Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: That is pretty much what you do, you get upset and embarrassed, at pretty much everything. Indeed. Thanks for your input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MackowiakYakYak Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I don’t understand how you can come to the negative conclusion. Coaches don’t rave about a player being an amazing person when they are a fat, lazy, PoS as Two-Guns is opining. Being a coach at the high school level, I’d never give my highest praises to a kid that is funny as hell but doesn’t work at all. If we have the whole Sox org and Missouri State’s staff saying he’s the most amazing person, then I’d imagine Burger was doing what he needed to be doing. If he was able to hack 3B at the weight and get more power, then it could’ve been intentional for how Burger and his coaches understood the dude’s body. Some lower body injuries later it seems obvious he needed to be slimmer or he needs to be now, but calling him lazy seems presumptive. I’m not even that high on Burger as a prospect. I expect absolutely nothing from him and would be happy with a few accumulated war for his career, but you’re being nasty without justification. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 52 minutes ago, MackowiakYakYak said: I don’t understand how you can come to the negative conclusion. Coaches don’t rave about a player being an amazing person when they are a fat, lazy, PoS as Two-Guns is opining. Being a coach at the high school level, I’d never give my highest praises to a kid that is funny as hell but doesn’t work at all. If we have the whole Sox org and Missouri State’s staff saying he’s the most amazing person, then I’d imagine Burger was doing what he needed to be doing. If he was able to hack 3B at the weight and get more power, then it could’ve been intentional for how Burger and his coaches understood the dude’s body. Some lower body injuries later it seems obvious he needed to be slimmer or he needs to be now, but calling him lazy seems presumptive. I’m not even that high on Burger as a prospect. I expect absolutely nothing from him and would be happy with a few accumulated war for his career, but you’re being nasty without justification. Its also a part of growing up. Mark Buehrle made it until his 30's without realizing the need for post season workouts and nutrition. Some guys get by on natural talent long enough, that they don't appreciate what a next level work ethic actually is until they fall behind. Its a normal part of the maturation process, and nothing something to lose your mind about. Give the kid credit, and hope it is enough to launch him back into the top level of prospects. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted November 19, 2020 Share Posted November 19, 2020 I heard Getz say that Jake looks better now then when the Sox drafted him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted November 19, 2020 Author Share Posted November 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Two-Gun Pete said: Hey, I did congratulate him for finally learning what "cardio" meant. But mostly, I'm embarrassed for a 25 year old who has basically nothing but time to work on his body and access to the best in medicine, training, and fitness, and money to hire a personal trainer or 10, YET he had 25 pounds to lose. I'm also embarrassed for this org, in that they spent the 11th pick, and all that money in signing bonuses, then couldn't figure out a way to make the child accountable to stop shoveling Dominos Pizza down his fat piehole. Here's hoping the child keeps his cardio up, and his hands off the KFC. Stop being such an asshole. Someone boot this clown. 7 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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