Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 What’s everyone thoughts on him as a possible RF option for next year? Would you consider trading for him between now and next Wednesday’s non-tender dealdline? If so, what would you be willing to give up to acquire him? On the White Sox Talk Podcast, David Kaplan was a guest and believes it’s 50/50 that Kris gets non-tendered. With a projected salary in the $22M to $23M range, his view is the acquisition cost would much lighter than what most Cubs fans would be expect. Chuck & McGuffey through out Stiever & a low level lottery ticket as a theoretical package. Obviously right now without knowing our budget it’s hard to speculate what broader set of moves is possible, but Bryant would be a hell of a buy low option that could pay off massively in 2021. However, seems like it would almost certainly be a one year thing, which maybe is fine if you’re confident Colas can be in the RF mix by 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 If he’s non-tendered id absolutely go after him. If he’s not, there’s no chance Jed would trade him across town. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 Would love Bryant. If there's any way to get him and extend him then I'd be overjoyed. He's going to be a great ball player in the next few years and I feel like he is being under valued right now because of injuries and inconsistencies (not necessarily his fault). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 If they know for sure they can't/won't sign Springer, I would take a flyer on a Stiever + a low level lottery ticket for Bryant. He probably goes to FA no matter what happens, but I take his production in a prove it/prove healthy year and re-address RF again next winter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: If he’s non-tendered id absolutely go after him. If he’s not, there’s no chance Jed would trade him across town. What did I miss? This is a legitimate possibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 At full price and only one year of control, I damned sure wouldn't give up anything for him. As a nontender, I would explore him at a cheaper price. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 And I was wrong, sounds like his arb projection is around $18.6M, so not nearly as high as I had thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: And I was wrong, sounds like his arb projection is around $18.6M, so not nearly as high as I had thought. That's what he made in 2020, so I can't see that being accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 27, 2020 Author Share Posted November 27, 2020 17 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That's what he made in 2020, so I can't see that being accurate. https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, ChiSoxJon said: What did I miss? This is a legitimate possibility? Nothing concrete but there’s been scuttlebutt that it’s a possibility Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2020/10/projected-arbitration-salaries-for-2021.html I get that, but arbitration really doesn't work that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted November 27, 2020 Share Posted November 27, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: At full price and only one year of control, I damned sure wouldn't give up anything for him. Nothing??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 15 minutes ago, Vulture said: Nothing??? A bad contract? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 22 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: I get that, but arbitration really doesn't work that way. Doesn’t work what way? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Doesn’t work what way? No raise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted November 28, 2020 Author Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: No raise. Technically a player can get a 20% decrease through arbitration. As for Bryant, not getting a raise seems about right given how bad he was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Technically a player can get a 20% decrease through arbitration. As for Bryant, not getting a raise seems about right given how bad he was last year. They can technically agree to less money. The team just needs to offer 80% of the previous year's salary if it goes to an arbitration hearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 The Nationals want Bryant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Technically a player can get a 20% decrease through arbitration. As for Bryant, not getting a raise seems about right given how bad he was last year. When was the past time it actually happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 3 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: A bad contract? Bryant for one year at 20ish mil is not worth much in the trade market but he's worth more than nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 Bryant has to be kicking himself for turning down that offer a few years back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 28 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: Bryant has to be kicking himself for turning down that offer a few years back. What was the offer? If he returns to career norms next year, it would be as if 2020 never happened when he hits FA IMO. I mean we're talking about 34 games here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 14 minutes ago, Vulture said: What was the offer? If he returns to career norms next year, it would be as if 2020 never happened when he hits FA IMO. I mean we're talking about 34 games here. If you Google you’ll see lots of articles about how he turned down an offer “well north of $200mil”. Tough to say how many years, but I’m guessing 7? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 2 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: If you Google you’ll see lots of articles about how he turned down an offer “well north of $200mil”. Tough to say how many years, but I’m guessing 7? Hmm. I'll go with eight. In that case he'd have to sign at 6/160+ to get into back that range presuming he gets something like 21.5 mil in arb. I guess he's got his work cut out for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted November 28, 2020 Share Posted November 28, 2020 So if Bryant is going to get traded, it would likely be by Wednesday before non-tender deadline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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