fathom Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: I will never understand the infatuation with Kyle “Babe” Schwarber. One of the most overrated players in Chicago sports history. He can mash righties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, fathom said: He can mash righties A wRC+ of 123 is good not great. For perspective, Joc Pederson has a career wRC+ of 135 against righties and is a halfway decent defensive OF, but the Dodgers’ fanbase never gushed over him like he was the second coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I will never understand the infatuation with Kyle “Babe” Schwarber. One of the most overrated players in Chicago sports history. Because Cubs fans are clueless, that’s why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 You guys are really mad that cubs fans got excited about a hitter that came up and performed great in big playoff games. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, bmags said: You guys are really mad that cubs fans got excited about a hitter that came up and performed great in big playoff games. What, I'm supposed to be impressed because he hit a homerun that stayed on the scoreboard? Fuck that guy. Once a Cub, always a Cub. I don't want him anywhere near my team. Edited December 5, 2020 by Yearnin' for Yermin Cubs suck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: What, I'm supposed to be impressed because he hit a homerun that stayed on the scoreboard? Fuck that guy. Once a Cub, always a Cub. I don't want him anywhere near my team. Silly Cubsession. Here's a few Cubs who later played well for the White Sox. Eloy Jimenez Oscar Gamble Dennis Lamp Steve Stone Jon Garland Edited December 5, 2020 by South Side Hit Men 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 10 hours ago, wrathofhahn said: Do they? He played high A ball last year why are we so sure they plan on plugging him day 1 or in two weeks? I am not. Schwarber is likely gonna get a one year deal I am fine with giving Vaughn another year at AA and AAA you still have the option of calling him up if he is playing well and/or Schwarber struggles. What is clear is our internal options prior to Vaughn suck and we are about to lose our best DH last year which comically was our backup catcher. Fangraphs had our OPS collectively last year as .570 at the DH position It is tough to say. Yeah it is true that vaughn only played high A ball and he also was good but not super dominant there (good K/bb rate but power just ok and ops of 830 is good but not spectacular and doesn't warrant a direct promotion). However the scouting reports are all very high on him and he also looked very solid in spring and summer training. You could definitely justify keeping him down half a year as an 800 ops in A ball is not a concern but also not forcing you to skip AA an AAA but I think here you can trust the scouting reports that he likely will be at least above average right away when he comes to the majors and hold his own due to his very solid plate discipline and mature approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 5 hours ago, bmags said: You guys are really mad that cubs fans got excited about a hitter that came up and performed great in big playoff games. Calling someone overrated means I’m mad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Mercedes might be at higher readiness level to DH at start of '21 than Vaughn. I'd certainly give him a chance. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Calling someone overrated means I’m mad? I guess I’m not really impressed calling someone overrated after they’ve been non tendered? Nobody has overrated Schwarber for years. If you were on this in 2015 maybe it would be more interesting. It’s pretty easy to understand why people were infatuated with him. He performed really well really young and they thought he’d get better - but he got worse. But as it is he’s still a good bat, and cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runtheballdown Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 Schwarber will never help you late in games. From the 6th inning on if he comes up in a key situation the other manager will just bring in their lefty and get him out. Who needs a 6 inning player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, bmags said: I guess I’m not really impressed calling someone overrated after they’ve been non tendered? Nobody has overrated Schwarber for years. If you were on this in 2015 maybe it would be more interesting. It’s pretty easy to understand why people were infatuated with him. He performed really well really young and they thought he’d get better - but he got worse. But as it is he’s still a good bat, and cheap. Saying that “nobody has overrated Schwarber for years” is a completely untrue statement and it’s an impressively condescending comment to make. I guess all my friends, family, coworkers, etc. from Chicago who have been hyping him up as a star hitter until the day he was non-tendered don’t count. I guess the national media writing tons of articles already trying to place Schwarber in free agency like he’s some hot ticket, while very few if any are talking about a superior player in Joc Pederson don’t count. People have overrated Kyle Schwarber for years because he impressed as a rookie and had some big playoff moments. That doesn’t make him a great hitter though, it makes a good platoon bat who is a questionable defensive fit on the field. None of this angers me, nor am I trying to “impress” anyone by saying he is overrated. I’m simply stating my opinion because we’re on a Sox message and I think some Sox fans have partially bought into the “Babe” hype. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 59 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Saying that “nobody has overrated Schwarber for years” is a completely untrue statement and it’s an impressively condescending comment to make. I guess all my friends, family, coworkers, etc. from Chicago who have been hyping him up as a star hitter until the day he was non-tendered don’t count. I guess the national media writing tons of articles already trying to place Schwarber in free agency like he’s some hot ticket, while very few if any are talking about a superior player in Joc Pederson don’t count. People have overrated Kyle Schwarber for years because he impressed as a rookie and had some big playoff moments. That doesn’t make him a great hitter though, it makes a good platoon bat who is a questionable defensive fit on the field. None of this angers me, nor am I trying to “impress” anyone by saying he is overrated. I’m simply stating my opinion because we’re on a Sox message and I think some Sox fans have partially bought into the “Babe living in Chicago, I don’t hear people talk about Schwarber like this anymore. Mostly frustrated that he stalled like the rest did. Schwarber was a surprise non tender, mlb writers wrote about. It all seems pretty normal. Schwarber may not be a starting outfielder, but he’s a pretty good DH candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 10 hours ago, bmags said: You guys are really mad that cubs fans got excited about a hitter that came up and performed great in big playoff games. Add to that he was a #4 pick, and he even looked like most of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: What, I'm supposed to be impressed because he hit a homerun that stayed on the scoreboard? Fuck that guy. Once a Cub, always a Cub. I don't want him anywhere near my team. But you are a Cubs fan now. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Flash said: Mercedes might be at higher readiness level to DH at start of '21 than Vaughn. I'd certainly give him a chance. He was ready this year and we had DH who couldn’t hit a beach ball. If he didn’t get a look this year why would he next? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 People are obsessed with The Cub. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 51 minutes ago, NCsoxfan said: He was ready this year and we had DH who couldn’t hit a beach ball. If he didn’t get a look this year why would he next? A better question to ask is why didn't he get a look this year? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, southsider2k5 said: But you are a Cubs fan now. I'm back on the Southside. The Cubs letting Len go was the last straw. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: I'm back on the Southside. The Cubs letting Len go was the last straw. Then we DFA you for not being loyal. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 2 hours ago, southsider2k5 said: Then we DFA you for not being loyal. You cleared waivers and were assigned to Great Falls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yesterday333 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 35 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: You cleared waivers and were assigned to Great Falls. Great Falls is independent now... so he is o longer with the organization haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 5, 2020 Share Posted December 5, 2020 1 hour ago, yesterday333 said: Great Falls is independent now... so he is o longer with the organization haha Sometimes that how it goes.?♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Flash said: A better question to ask is why didn't he get a look this year? Organizational stubbornness and a desire to fail conventionally (with a vet like EE) as opposed to an untraditional player like Yermin. One can’t empirically prove that Yermin is a AAAA player. Perhaps we’ll never know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 6, 2020 Share Posted December 6, 2020 Amazing. America has rolled by like an army of steamrollers, it has been erased like a blackboard. The one constant through the years, putting on a cub uniform makes any one look like clownshoes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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