bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 throw some good stuff out for my tradeheads. Anyone can propose our top prospects for good players! Let's get to the hard stuff: trades that are very unlikely and nobody feels that strongly or good about. Potential Teams: Oakland As - The As have a lot of free agents and two very bad contracts that may prevent them from re-signing players like Semien and la stella. Trade: White Sox Get: Khris Davis (1 yr/ $16.5 mm) Chris Bassett (1 yr / 4.5?) As get: Salary relief to sign Semien, go after SPs like Mike Leake and Hamels, and sign Hanser Alberto Zach Collins Isaiah Carranzo Yankees Nobody ever wins trades with the yankees since the white sox acquired our dear sweet Jose Contreras. This trade will make people angry! White Sox Get: Gary Sanchez Mike Tauchman Yankees Get Nick Madrigal White sox get a player at his lowest value in Sanchez, whom they can use as DH until vaughn comes, and if he recovers have a cracker jack DH/C/1b rotation. Tauchman gets them a nice, cheap RF platoon against RHP pitchers. He was also down last year, but still had a good wRC+ against RHP and if he gets back to 2019 then he's a great option since he was not a platoon guy. Yankees keep Sanchez from signing with a rival in Tampa, get his salary off books, and replace Lemahieu with a cheap option and diversify their offensive attack. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Sox get: Spencer Howard Philies get: Yasmani Grandal and Nick Madrigal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 6 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Sox get: Spencer Howard Philies get: Yasmani Grandal and Nick Madrigal I was thinking Wheeler for Grandal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, fathom said: I was thinking Wheeler for Grandal That leaves the Sox without a catcher. But the idea of the Sox trading for Wheeler for pennies on the dollar is an idea I can get behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: That leaves the Sox without a catcher. But the idea of the Sox trading for Wheeler for pennies on the dollar is an idea I can get behind. McCann would be the target, and I’m sure that’s who Harold has in mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 8 minutes ago, Harold's Leg Lift said: Sox get: Spencer Howard Philies get: Yasmani Grandal and Nick Madrigal Yeah phillies have a few guys I've circled. Problem is I have no idea where that FO is going to take things. They seem to have an angry owner! But like, not much to do except spend thru it or send out some of guys they've signed. I'm kinda interested in a reclamation project of Velasquez. I don't know why they haven't shelved his curveball. He's got too many pitches. But there's a lot there. Maybe bullpen role can make him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 27 minutes ago, bmags said: White Sox Get: Gary Sanchez Mike Tauchman Yankees Get Nick Madrigal I like the idea of going after both Sanchez and Tauchman, but I question if the Yankees will target a 2B even with losing LeMahieu. I can see them moving Gleybar over full-time and going after a big SS. I think they've got question marks at pitching and need to replace bodies in Tanaka and Paxton. I'd be interested in a Stiever++ package, curious what else they would be interested in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: McCann would be the target, and I’m sure that’s who Harold has in mind If Harold responds putting Yadi on the sox I will kill him. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 Just now, MiddleCoastBias said: I like the idea of going after both Sanchez and Tauchman, but I question if the Yankees will target a 2B even with losing LeMahieu. I can see them moving Gleybar over full-time and going after a big SS. I think they've got question marks at pitching and need to replace bodies in Tanaka and Paxton. I'd be interested in a Stiever++ package, curious what else they would be interested in. I don't think they like Gleybars D but madrigal would give them salary relief at 2b and improved defense (lol no idea), which can get them to spend on pitching OR Realmuto. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Love your thread but that yankees trade makes not a lot of sense for us i like the oakkand trade a bit 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) Wheeler to the Sox makes a ton of sense. If the Phillies are desperate to shed money, then it shouldn't be that expensive. I'd start the call asking about Harper though. I'd ask the Phillies for 45M in cash that is not to be paid until the last 3 years of Harper's deal. That gives them 8 years to recover, and brings Harper's decline year salaries down to $10M annually. If they're willing to spend $25M on Springer, why not spend that on Harper, who is better? Yeah, it's a longer term commitment but it covers the last hole in the lineup and they only have to worry about pitching for years. Edited December 4, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 I still like the idea someone threw out a month ago about targeting Joe Musgrove from the Pirates. They seem to be in shambles and might take a package of lower level guys to develop as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, MiddleCoastBias said: I still like the idea someone threw out a month ago about targeting Joe Musgrove from the Pirates. They seem to be in shambles and might take a package of lower level guys to develop as well. I really like him. Good call. Only 2 years of control and injury issues though. Also, I want to trade Stiever this winter. His value will never be higher and he's behind a lot of guys in the Sox system. Edited December 4, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 TLR and Zack Collins, Reynaldo Lopez to Cardinals for Mike Schildt, Harrison Bader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 White Sox get: Joe Musgrove Bryan Reynolds Pirates get: Jared Kelley Jonathan Stiever Micker Adolfo James Beard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: White Sox get: Joe Musgrove Bryan Reynolds Pirates get: Jared Kelley Jonathan Stiever Micker Adolfo James Beard Reynolds is someone who I would be very interested in if the Pirates made him available Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 25 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Wheeler to the Sox makes a ton of sense. If the Phillies are desperate to shed money, then it shouldn't be that expensive. I'd start the call asking about Harper though. I'd ask the Phillies for 45M in cash that is not to be paid until the last 3 years of Harper's deal. That gives them 8 years to recover, and brings Harper's decline year salaries down to $10M annually. If they're willing to spend $25M on Springer, why not spend that on Harper, who is better? Yeah, it's a longer term commitment but it covers the last hole in the lineup and they only have to worry about pitching for years. Can someone explain to me why Phillies would be looking to dump Wheeler? He pitched fantastically last year and I wouldn't say his contract is an albatross. I get it if they want to rebuild or something, but I assume they still would expect some prospects headed their way. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to get Wheeler - I just don't quite see why Philly would do it and if they are just shedding for salary sake than I don't understand why we'd trade Grandal who has a big contract tied to him as well. Or am I missing something and Wheeler is like out half of next year or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, fathom said: Reynolds is someone who I would be very interested in if the Pirates made him available That’s your Reinsdorf going “all in” on a budget move right there. Might not be enough for the Pirates to hire but it’s at least an interesting way for us to fill a couple of holes with cost controlled players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said: Can someone explain to me why Phillies would be looking to dump Wheeler? He pitched fantastically last year and I wouldn't say his contract is an albatross. I get it if they want to rebuild or something, but I assume they still would expect some prospects headed their way. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to get Wheeler - I just don't quite see why Philly would do it and if they are just shedding for salary sake than I don't understand why we'd trade Grandal who has a big contract tied to him as well. Or am I missing something and Wheeler is like out half of next year or something. They claim to have lost upwards of $130M in 2020. Their GM and Ownership are talking about cutting payroll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan49 Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Zavala for Mookie Betts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 Weird indeed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 White Sox get: - Zack Wheeler - Blake Snell Phillies get: - Dylan Cease - Nick Madrigal - Zack Collins Tampa Bay gets - Michael Kopech - Mick Abel - Micker Adolfo/Blake Rutherford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 24 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: White Sox get: Joe Musgrove Bryan Reynolds Pirates get: Jared Kelley Jonathan Stiever Micker Adolfo James Beard This framework but too light from our side. Maybe if we swap out Kelley for Cease. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 4, 2020 Author Share Posted December 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Quin said: White Sox get: - Zack Wheeler - Blake Snell Phillies get: - Dylan Cease - Nick Madrigal - Zack Collins Tampa Bay gets - Michael Kopech - Mick Abel - Micker Adolfo/Blake Rutherford Now we’re talking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomPickle Posted December 4, 2020 Share Posted December 4, 2020 White Sox get: Yusei Kikuchi Mariners get: Jonathan Stiever Zach Collins Lency Delgado 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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