bmags Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, almagest said: I thought I saw some concerning trends in his advanced numbers but I checked Fangraphs again and contact %, swing %, exit velocity, etc were all within career norms. He probably has another year or two left but given the Sox luck with signing over-30 left handed DHs in the low-mid market price range I'll still take the under. I get it! I specifically think Brantley's hitting style will mesh well with this team. To speak of player comps, he just feels like he'll be that new howie kendrick type. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Brantley would be a fine addition if he comes cheap and is cool with a part time DH/LF role once Vaughn arrives. The caveats give me doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just now, chetkincaid said: That would be a clown show defense flanking Robert with Brantley in LF and Eloy in RF. Of course. The Sox shouldn’t spend money on a DH. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, fathom said: Agreed, Brantley and Joc would be awesome. They have the same agent as well. I wonder how much budget that leaves for a pitcher? I wonder how much Kluber would cost? If Hahn got Kluber I'd want him to hedge with someone like Richards/Archer in case Kluber isn't healthy, has diminished stuff, or gets injured again. Edited December 7, 2020 by Jack Parkman 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Just say NO to M. Brantley. Old, no defense, bit unreliable with injuries. Good hitter, but I'd rather be a year early than a year late with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 So how about Brantley and Joc for a combined $25M - roughly same dollars as Springer? We then trade Vaughn as the centerpiece for Snell. resign Colome and we are off to the races. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 1 minute ago, bear_brian said: So how about Brantley and Joc for a combined $25M - roughly same dollars as Springer? We then trade Vaughn as the centerpiece for Snell. resign Colome and we are off to the races. Sounds about right. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Funny a guy who hits .300+ year in year out with one of the lowest strikeout rates in baseball is being compared to Dunn and LaRoche 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bear_brian Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 Brantley is the DH, Joc and Engel platoon, Keuchel then becomes our #3 starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 7, 2020 Author Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Vulture said: Funny a guy who hits .300+ year in year out with one of the lowest strikeout rates in baseball is being compared to Dunn and LaRoche It's more Sox fan cynicism than anything else.......Ever heard of Murphy's law?? Who would be better in LF? Brantley or Eloy? Edited December 7, 2020 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 7, 2020 Share Posted December 7, 2020 (edited) Eye test was telling me Brantley was barely passable in left field, but statistics say he was actually pretty good in left. Don't think he's the best fit, but there shouldn't be much question about his bat imo. Dude can hit, no doubt in my mind about that. I just don't see how a guy who hasn't struck out 70 times since 2011 suddenly at age 34 becomes a candidate for Encarnacion/Dunn style drop off. People seem to forget Dunn was an out of shape slob who was crying about how being a designated hitter sucked immediately after signing to DH for the Sox and Encarnacion was always a low average high strikeout hitter, in which case any diminishment is inevitably going to result in total collapse of productivity. Sox rolled the dice and lost on a one year deal. Bid deal. Doesn't have anything to do with Brantley Edited December 8, 2020 by Vulture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 20 minutes ago, bear_brian said: So how about Brantley and Joc for a combined $25M - roughly same dollars as Springer? We then trade Vaughn as the centerpiece for Snell. resign Colome and we are off to the races. Trading Vaughn is an atrocious idea. Trading him for Snell is even more so. I don’t know why so many people are excited to do this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, bmags said: EE was 37 and had already started to show real decline outside of his sox run (didn't he stop hitting doubles? Usually bad) Brantley is still great and is providing much more than power. I get that every player is just a former sox player, but come on guys. Every player is just a future former Sox player. For those concerned, I think Brantley is so different than the past failed Sox signings. As you say, he is more than power and is the type of profile that ages well. It's also fine if the Sox actually have depth. Signing an aging player and not having him play everyday sounds like a way to keep him healthy and productive. Good teams don't have 9 guys fixed to a position anymore. Not everyone will be healthy all year and Vaughn shouldn't be counted on for anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny Dravot Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 57 minutes ago, hogan873 said: What's the biggest concern with Brantley? Defense? Seems to be a good hitter. I gather from other's comments that he wouldn't/couldn't play RF. That creates an issue by having to move Eloy. Question is, how would Eloy be in RF? I love me some Eloy, but put him in RF and we will allow the most triples in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, shakes said: Every player is just a future former Sox player. For those concerned, I think Brantley is so different than the past failed Sox signings. As you say, he is more than power and is the type of profile that ages well. It's also fine if the Sox actually have depth. Signing an aging player and not having him play everyday sounds like a way to keep him healthy and productive. Good teams don't have 9 guys fixed to a position anymore. Not everyone will be healthy all year and Vaughn shouldn't be counted on for anything. Yeah, but is LaRussa going to do that with his players? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 56 minutes ago, bmags said: I'll take that bet. If I win nobody on the board can mention Adam Dunn again. Would you like to make the bet a little more interesting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsoxfan Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I was pushing for Brantley when he was a FA a few years ago. Think he would be a solid but unspectacular addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 16 minutes ago, Balta1701 said: Yeah, but is LaRussa going to do that with his players? I would hope so, but it's a big unknown - the game has changed a lot since he last managed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 36 minutes ago, Danny Dravot said: Trading Vaughn is an atrocious idea. Trading him for Snell is even more so. I don’t know why so many people are excited to do this. They're young. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigsoxhurt35 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 hour ago, Buehrle>Wood said: It just seems like if he comes here he will hit .200 Lol true. But I do love hearing how he’s really a cerebral hitter that can help young hitters too. I think he would hit just fine in this lineup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, SouthWallace said: Brantley would be a fine addition if he comes cheap and is cool with a part time DH/LF role once Vaughn arrives. The caveats give me doubt. I agree but why? If Vaughn's arrival is imminent, what is do we have for Brantley outside of DH for a year? Would a 1 year deal for what he will cost be worth it? I like Brantley and was for signing him, but after having thought of it more, doesn't seem like a fit if he's not going to play the field. Edited December 8, 2020 by RagahRagah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, oldsox said: They're young. Ok, boomer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Nightengale said they’re between Brantley, Joc and Eaton for RF. Also mentioned Quintana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, fathom said: Nightengale said they’re between Brantley, Joc and Eaton for RF. Also mentioned Quintana I would hope nab 2 and have Eloy DH if Brantley fields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, RagahRagah said: I would hope nab 2 and have Eloy DH if Brantley fields. Sounded like it was only one of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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