quickman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: This is where I keep coming back to...unless Cubs are sending a ton of cash and the actual prospect cost is minimum, I just don't see what makes this move so appealing (at face value). It would seem if the Sox are going to spend that kind of money - why not just get Bauer at the big cost and Pederson at a more affordable shorter term AAV (you probably end up with a similar all-in cost spend and don't give up any prospects and get 2 better players). Again the original post does not have darvish in this . It’s dunning for heyward. This I stupid the guy abandon the thread and nobody even noticed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 46 minutes ago, Pal said: Update...Dunning going North, Cubs eating portion of Heyward $$$. Dude is convinced it's going down. Again, be gentle. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 CHEESY BEEF BOMB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, quickman said: Here is the original post from a guy or person that hasn’t commented since where the hell is darvish name in this? 2 hours ago, Pal said: Not an insider or anything but have been texted once Saturday and once today that the Sox are seriously discussing a deal for Darvish and Heyward. Again, don't know any insider, but this person is pretty good a filtering through bullshit and this is all I've heard from them since the middle of the season. Now I see what Cishek is saying. Whatever....take it easy on me! It's not the original post. You must not have read the whole thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Rusty_Kuntz said: This was his first post, on page one: Not an insider or anything but have been texted once Saturday and once today that the Sox are seriously discussing a deal for Darvish and Heyward. Again, don't know any insider, but this person is pretty good a filtering through bullshit and this is all I've heard from them since the middle of the season. Now I see what Cishek is saying. Whatever....take it easy on me! I am only commenting on what the other guy said and darvish was no part of it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: Doesn’t seem like the cost is that different no? Exactly - seems like your total $ spend is similar and you get 2 better players (Bauer > Darvish; Joc > Heyward). And I keep Dunning (a +). Now maybe I'm underselling just how much cash the Cubs are going to send and/or the reality is free agency is a crapshoot so Sox don't feel very good about any chance at getting Bauer, in which case maybe a Bauer / Pederson scenario at similar payroll costs is just not realistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, fathom said: Dunning, Heuer and Leury??? Just spitballing I could see Leury, but if we’re talking on a sizable chunk of Heyward’s deal and giving up Dunning I’d assume Heuer is not part of this. If we gave up a reliever I’d think Foster is more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: We are pissing away our payroll flexibility and giving away a mid rotation starter to do it. We could sign Bauer and Peterson for the same dollars and keep Dunning. Are you sure about that? If the cubs covered a portion of Heyward's salary to bring it down to ten mil per, that would be 32, 29 and 28 million per for the next three years. Have to admit I have no idea what Pederson signs for, but if Bauer is looking at 30 million like some say id think it'd be closer to 40 million per, and you could get someone like Hendrik for close to the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: CHEESY BEEF BOMB SNELL AND MEADOWS My friend's three legged disco cat told me. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Chisoxfn said: Exactly - seems like your total $ spend is similar and you get 2 better players (Bauer > Darvish; Joc > Heyward). And I keep Dunning (a +). Now maybe I'm underselling just how much cash the Cubs are going to send and/or the reality is free agency is a crapshoot so Sox don't feel very good about any chance at getting Bauer, in which case maybe a Bauer / Pederson scenario at similar payroll costs is just not realistic. Bauer is younger than Darvish but Darvish>Bauer IMO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Chisoxfn said: Exactly - seems like your total $ spend is similar and you get 2 better players (Bauer > Darvish; Joc > Heyward). And I keep Dunning (a +). Now maybe I'm underselling just how much cash the Cubs are going to send and/or the reality is free agency is a crapshoot so Sox don't feel very good about any chance at getting Bauer, in which case maybe a Bauer / Pederson scenario at similar payroll costs is just not realistic. Can’t co sign here. I don’t think Bauer is better than darvish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Kuntz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, quickman said: I am only commenting on what the other guy said and darvish was no part of it . This is what the guy your are talking about wrote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2Deep Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Was Grandal the catcher for Darvish in LA? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, southsider2k5 said: It's not the original post. You must not have read the whole thread. Ok man understand and if darvish is part of it I get the angst I was only commenting on heyward for dunning ? Long time southsider hope you are well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnetennba Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 7 minutes ago, quickman said: Here is the original post from a guy or person that hasn’t commented since where the hell is darvish name in this? Go back further, supposed rumor *IS* Darvish + Heyward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, bmags said: Can’t co sign here. I don’t think Bauer is better than darvish. Agreed. Darvish>Bauer. Darvish's worst years are the majority of Bauer's career. Bauer is incredibly risky and I don't see Jerry going for that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 37 minutes ago, fathom said: Why? It’s an all in move without giving up the farm. I’d want to see the full terms before passing judgement, but adding Darvish, signing Richards (I’ll pass on Quintana), and holding onto both Kopech & Cease would be a pretty good outcome for us pitching wise this winter. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 31 minutes ago, fathom said: Heyward is the great defensive RF who can hit RHP they seek. His contract is awful but it offsets the price for Yu. His contract was more front-loaded. The back part isn't as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, quickman said: Ok man understand and if darvish is part of it I get the angst I was only commenting on heyward for dunning ? Long time southsider hope you are well. No one's trading for Heyward by himself for anything let alone Dunning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: CHEESY BEEF BOMB I'm glad this guy did this. This will be the nail in the coffin whether or not there is a single ounce of credibility among the bullshit that I think makes him up. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 (edited) We’ll all look back on this and realize nothing will actually happen. Edited December 8, 2020 by Soxnfins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 If a trade is going down shouldn’t it have been leaked to one of the national writers already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, maloney.adam said: If a trade is going down shouldn’t it have been leaked to one of the national writers already? not necessarily Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Vulture said: No one's trading for Heyward by himself for anything let alone Dunning. Why if the cubs eat the contract I would take him and for a 3/4 starter who had arm trouble even better . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, maloney.adam said: If a trade is going down shouldn’t it have been leaked to one of the national writers already? Yep, I'd think so. I'm calling big bullshit so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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