shakes Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, turnin' two said: The Bears. Didn't anyone follow the Hawks during the dollar Bill days? Or the Bulls post Jordan? Liking Chicago sports teams is why fan is a derivation of fanatic. It's not logical, and is against the better judgement of reason. Chicago has terrible ownership who has a history of spitting in their fans faces. I think for a long time the Bears have just been inept, where as Jerry, and old man Wirtz before he passed, truly don't give a shit about the fans. They are money making business for them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, shakes said: Didn't anyone follow the Hawks during the dollar Bill days? Or the Bulls post Jordan? Liking Chicago sports teams is why fan is a derivation of fanatic. It's not logical, and is against the better judgement of reason. Chicago has terrible ownership who has a history of spitting in their fans faces. I think for a long time the Bears have just been inept, where as Jerry, and old man Wirtz before he passed, truly don't give a shit about the fans. They are money making business for them. I remember my Dad taking me to bowling alley bars to watch home games on satellite. Dark days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I’m pretty sure Hawk had to change his drawers hearing the Eaton news. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I would have preferred Joc or Brantley, but this could have been worse for sure. Nothing to meltdown over. Eaton and Engel will form a perfectly fine platoon in RF...obviously “perfectly fine” is not anything we should be striving for, but it’s not going to get me nearly as upset as I see people here. My excitement for this team isn’t going to wane because of unexciting, yet solid, signings. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, Dick Allen said: I’m pretty sure Hawk had to change his drawers hearing the Eaton news. To be fair, that might have happened anyway. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, southsider2k5 said: To be fair, that might have happened anyway. Yes but I am thinking it was a different excretion than normal for a man at his advanced age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.J. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Sox therapy: I hate this move and hate almost every aspect about how this offseason has been approached. It makes me think the great things they did in the few years prior to this might have been, like, a complete accident? I hate that they're so willing to piss away money, on trash players, bounce-back candidates, and washed up veterans (in this case, all of the above) but cry poor when they have chances to take actual steps to improve the team. It's clear that lowering payroll in the early years of the rebuild was not an attempt to manage finances in preparation for a championship window run, to have the money when we needed it most, per se, but rather to pocket more profit because competing was not on the table. Now that competing is on the table, and we all felt we were on the verge of something special, the curtain is drawn back and we know the ceiling/limitations from the most powerful man in the building are no higher than they would be at any other point in history, and that all narratives to the contrary were always pure and utter fantasy. Adam Eaton. Given all avenues available we went with Adam Eaton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: I remember my Dad taking me to bowling alley bars to watch home games on satellite. Dark days. Smoky bars for me. My dad even had me bring in candy to sell (fundraiser for little league), and it worked. *That sentence highlights acceptable parenting in the 80's that would not fly today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaylorStSox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, flavum said: And yet, people in baseball as a whole have never been nicer and more decent in the history of the game. It’s just that there is 24 hour sports radio and Twitter and social media. If Adam Eaton has ever truly crossed the line, I’m unaware. If the worst thing he ever did was say something stupid about LaRoche’s kid, then I’m way over that. People will forgive good players. The problem with Eaton is that he's an asshole and he absolutely sucks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth G.O.A.T. Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 19 minutes ago, shakes said: I read it this way too. If LaRussa can't manage a clubhouse with Eaton on a one year contract, we are going to have bigger problems. I think Eaton the player fits better than the other options, and a veteran with sustained success can have a pass for last year. Joc is the profile that fails here nearly every time. Eaton's time will also need to be managed to keep him healthy, again something we have to accept that TLR can manage. Only giving him 7 million is a win. RF to me is a small hole and you should have average, with potential to be above average performance with Eaton and Engel. I think people have been underplaying outfield defense if you are going to try and jam in Eloy with a Brantley or Schwarber type. Robert is a God out there, but he can't cover for two butchers all season. The savings, just like the Lynn deal, do need to be invested elsewhere though. Please keep signing pitching. TLR has his issues, but managing a clubhouse will not be one of them. Just my opinion, and I was not a fan of the hire given who else was available. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
35thstreetswarm Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Maybe with TLR, Eaton the FO is laying the groundwork for Bauer by destroying the only argument against him--that he'd ruin a loose and cohesive clubhouse. Too late now! 5D chess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, fathom said: I just hope Abreu can get along with him now. As long as he can, everyone else will. If you can't get along with Jose there's plenty wrong with you. Guy's a saint. Also, Eaton can be a tool but he's not a "cancer". Not even close. Has his guys and keeps to himself mostly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I have never seen a sports organization with as much contempt for their fanbase as the Sox. It's baffling. I have never seen a fanbase with as much contempt for their organization as the Sox. It's baffling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 I wonder how the Nats were able to overcome Eatons assholeness and win a WS, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daggins Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: I have never seen a fanbase with as much contempt for their organization as the Sox. It's baffling. The Sox are minor leaguers compared to the Jets fanbase. We're just realistic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: I wonder how the Nats were able to overcome Eatons assholeness and win a WS, To be fair, they had a very veteran team. The opposite of ours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: I wonder how the Nats were able to overcome Eatons assholeness and win a WS, I'm sure his good OPS and two homers in the WS helped.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 Just now, bmags said: To be fair, they had a very veteran team. The opposite of ours. 2014-2016 was also a veteran team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: To be fair, they had a very veteran team. The opposite of ours. For their rotation they did but for positional players they seemed youngish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 8 minutes ago, macsandz said: If you can't get along with Jose there's plenty wrong with you. Guy's a saint. Also, Eaton can be a tool but he's not a "cancer". Not even close. Has his guys and keeps to himself mostly. Whats the plan to add some real LH power? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, Donny Lucy's Avocado Farm said: 2014-2016 was also a veteran team. Their best players were the problem vs. the best players being the leaders. Makes a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 15 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said: I would have preferred Joc or Brantley, but this could have been worse for sure. Nothing to meltdown over. Eaton and Engel will form a perfectly fine platoon in RF...obviously “perfectly fine” is not anything we should be striving for, but it’s not going to get me nearly as upset as I see people here. My excitement for this team isn’t going to wane because of unexciting, yet solid, signings. It's really weird to me because these moves put us in a position where the next move or two could either justify a meltdown or end up with everybody being happy. If our next move is Q, might be meltdown time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 6 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: I wonder how the Nats were able to overcome Eatons assholeness and win a WS, Well, they won. Winning helps reduce assholeness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 10 minutes ago, macsandz said: If you can't get along with Jose there's plenty wrong with you. Guy's a saint. Also, Eaton can be a tool but he's not a "cancer". Not even close. Has his guys and keeps to himself mostly. When Sox traded Eaton didn’t you intimate it wasn’t just about the rebuild but to get problem guys off team? What changed 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 8, 2020 Share Posted December 8, 2020 1 minute ago, bmags said: To be fair, they had a very veteran team. The opposite of ours. Eloy will be in year 3.Moncada, TA, Abreu, Grandal all vets. Robert would need a translator to have an idea what he is saying. Madrigal doesn’t seem like a guy who will be bothered by this. Vaughn seems like his own man. If he was as poison as some want to think, to fit in their narrative, the White Sox wouldn’t have paid him the money. They know him better than we do. There are going to be similarly priced guys. At his price point , he probably was the best choice. I think Dahl might have been even a better call as he was cheaper, and yong and controlled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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