bmags Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Maybe the worst post I’ve ever scanned 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Orlando said: I’m sorry but I don’t have an hour to read this. I read the first line and I assure you, Hendriks would be a great get. If it takes you an hour to read the equivalent of a couple of paragraphs you need to go back to school. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 22 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Did you read the article? Yep what about it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 This site is stupid. Yesterday people were b****ing all day about Adam Eaton coming back, even after knowing Springer wasn't happening and there was no other choice but to try to find the tallest midget among 2nd tier options. And now today everybody wants to give like $40M guaranteed to a reliever. Unbelievable. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ron883 Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, YourWhatHurts said: This site is stupid. Yesterday people were b****ing all day about Adam Eaton coming back, even after knowing Springer wasn't happening and there was no other choice but to try to find the tallest midget among 2nd tier options. And now today everybody wants to give like $40M guaranteed to a reliever. Unbelievable. The guy just put up a 4 WAR season as a reliever. If he doesn't completely flop, he would be totally worth it. Imagine having Heuer, Bummer, Crochet and Hendriks in the playoffs. Even if one of those guys had an off year, you have a dominant 7-8-9 inning group of relievers that can pitch multiple innings. We'll also have Foster and Bummer there, with some high ceiling guys in Lamber and Burdi waiting. That bullpen would be lockdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: So we gave up on Joc for nothing in exchange then. Nice. You’ll learn to love Spanky in the 49 games he plays next year! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Uh pretty unconvincing threat. Mets going super bullpen route again? Worked great last time!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, fathom said: Yep what about it? Nothing in article says the Mets are interested in him, although I see Martino says that in the tweet it originated from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: If it takes you an hour to read the equivalent of a couple of paragraphs you need to go back to school. Haha, I knew I was opening myself up to that one but seriously start a blog. Edited December 10, 2020 by Orlando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nothing in article says the Mets are interested in him, although I see Martino says that in the tweet it originated from. It does say they have interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 9, 2020 Author Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Blackout Friday said: It does say they have interest. I stand corrected! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nothing in article says the Mets are interested in him, although I see Martino says that in the tweet it originated from. Do they not encourage reading in Nashville? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: Imagine stealing 10 billion dollars, buying a baseball team with it, and then saying you need to keep "payroll flexibility" with your stolen money lol. Wonder if Steve is going to hire some more people to call team employees late at night to intimidate and harrass them hoping they quit their job so he can capitalize on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 20 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You’ll learn to love Spanky in the 49 games he plays next year! I've been waiting to see a Spanky reference. Good job . But have I seen video of that crazy handshake cerebration thing he does ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 Blue Jays are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 10, 2020 Author Share Posted December 10, 2020 13 minutes ago, fathom said: Do they not encourage reading in Nashville? Reading and masks aren’t recommended down here 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VAfan Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 37 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: I don't want Hendriks. I think the Sox "losing out" on Hendriks is most probably a win. Reasons: 1) We already have a playoff closer, and he's head and shoulders above anybody on the market, and his name is Garret Crochet. 2) Hendriks at $13M+ per year? 3+ years? No thanks. That'll probably go bad. There's a long and storied history of great RPs who really suck hard like half or more of their multiyear contract. This sort of thing is almost always a really, really bad idea. 3) We don't need another "strike him out" guy. What I like about Colome is that, as a groundball pitcher ideally, he only needs one pitch to get an out. He's trying to pitch to contact. I would rather have a guy like that at a much lesser cost. The reality is, especially without robo umps, the more pitches you have to throw to record an out, the more likely it is that you will walk someone. I saw this guy Hendriks against us in the playoffs where he couldn't throw a strike so bad you might as well have called him Carson Fulmer. No matter how good he has been, there's a good chance we will see a lot of that with him in a 3+ year deal. 4) We should save the $$$ for good reason: in June or July, there is going to be a possibility that we may be able to take on a contract. Would the Nats make Scherzer available in his last year if they fall out? Probably. That's just one example, but there may be a lot of teams looking to dump a contract around July and if we were to miss on a guy like Scherzer even for a half season to overpay a RP then that's just bad. If it's a normal postseason this year and not half the league getting in, then there's an excellent chance that the market will be loaded with players whose teams are looking to dump their contracts. This could really be a great opportunity for us. 5) Also around June or July, there are likely to be lots of RPs out there on the market as is usual, many of whom are guys who people think "suck" now but who are in the middle of career years. Think about our Swarzak year, and this time, we are looking to acquire a guy like this instead of trade him. These guys will mostly be available for salary relief and the kinds of players like Sheets, Lambert, Luis Gonzalez, etc. which we have to trade anyway at some point just to clear 40-man space and/or (in Lambert's case) to give an opportunity to. 6) Going off #1, we just need a "bridge-the-gap" closer, which is why I like Colome, because I think at worst, we're looking at 1 year guaranteed with a vesting 2nd year. If he needs 2+ guaranteed years then I'm okay waiting on a 1-year guy or trying to trade for someone. I think we are best off with Heuer and Bummer in their 6th/7th/8th/whenever roles where they can come in and get a big K or groundball, put out the fire and keep us ahead or keep the game winnable for us. We just need a "clean 9th inning" guy. That means someone who isn't a threat to walk the whole world and has decent stuff. Once the playoffs start, Crochet is the guy. He is the real weapon in our bullpen. 7) Michael Kopech and Jonathan Stiever: here are 2 guys who are starters that are very likely to be coming out of the pen later on in the year, **if** the Sox acquire another starter, and **if**we don't have a SP go down with an injury, then it's Kopech likely going to the rotation. Now I know some people are down on Stiever seeing 92-95 and not 94-97 and some inconsistency and nerves, but if his stuff gets back and he's coming out of the pen, he could be a weapon at the front who could push some guys back. And Kopech obviously has the ability to be a monster coming out of the pen. 8 ) SP is still a bigger need. Don't spend $11M on a low-upside type when you can spend some more on a higher-upside type. 9) Tony needs more money to buy alcohol. You can't spend it all on Hendriks. then he'll have nothing to drink. My solution: try to bring Colome back on a 1-year guaranteed deal. Check in on David Robertson on a MiLB contract with a low base also. Move on to the best 1-year guy you can if Colome can't be had for 1 guaranteed year. Look to make a reasonable trade if all else fails. And if we're going to spend more money, put it toward the best SP available. I think this is reasonable. I wrote my own post on why I thought the Sox should re-sign Colome. I don't think it has to be limited to a 1-year deal. Crochet could be the closer at the end of this year, but he should be groomed to be a starter by 2022. On the other hand, I would be fine if the Sox sign Hendriks. They need a closer. No one else on our roster could be relied on to close, and Crochet can't do it for a year. He couldn't even make it through 2 innings against Oakland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxnfins Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Reading and masks aren’t recommended down here True statement as I just drove to SC the week before last and went through TN... it’s optional everywhere south of Indiana ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, YourWhatHurts said: I don't want Hendriks. I think the Sox "losing out" on Hendriks is most probably a win. Reasons: 1) We already have a playoff closer, and he's head and shoulders above anybody on the market, and his name is Garret Crochet. 2) Hendriks at $13M+ per year? 3+ years? No thanks. That'll probably go bad. There's a long and storied history of great RPs who really suck hard like half or more of their multiyear contract. This sort of thing is almost always a really, really bad idea. 3) We don't need another "strike him out" guy. What I like about Colome is that, as a groundball pitcher ideally, he only needs one pitch to get an out. He's trying to pitch to contact. I would rather have a guy like that at a much lesser cost. The reality is, especially without robo umps, the more pitches you have to throw to record an out, the more likely it is that you will walk someone. I saw this guy Hendriks against us in the playoffs where he couldn't throw a strike so bad you might as well have called him Carson Fulmer. No matter how good he has been, there's a good chance we will see a lot of that with him in a 3+ year deal. 4) We should save the $$$ for good reason: in June or July, there is going to be a possibility that we may be able to take on a contract. Would the Nats make Scherzer available in his last year if they fall out? Probably. That's just one example, but there may be a lot of teams looking to dump a contract around July and if we were to miss on a guy like Scherzer even for a half season to overpay a RP then that's just bad. If it's a normal postseason this year and not half the league getting in, then there's an excellent chance that the market will be loaded with players whose teams are looking to dump their contracts. This could really be a great opportunity for us. 5) Also around June or July, there are likely to be lots of RPs out there on the market as is usual, many of whom are guys who people think "suck" now but who are in the middle of career years. Think about our Swarzak year, and this time, we are looking to acquire a guy like this instead of trade him. These guys will mostly be available for salary relief and the kinds of players like Sheets, Lambert, Luis Gonzalez, etc. which we have to trade anyway at some point just to clear 40-man space and/or (in Lambert's case) to give an opportunity to. 6) Going off #1, we just need a "bridge-the-gap" closer, which is why I like Colome, because I think at worst, we're looking at 1 year guaranteed with a vesting 2nd year. If he needs 2+ guaranteed years then I'm okay waiting on a 1-year guy or trying to trade for someone. I think we are best off with Heuer and Bummer in their 6th/7th/8th/whenever roles where they can come in and get a big K or groundball, put out the fire and keep us ahead or keep the game winnable for us. We just need a "clean 9th inning" guy. That means someone who isn't a threat to walk the whole world and has decent stuff. Once the playoffs start, Crochet is the guy. He is the real weapon in our bullpen. 7) Michael Kopech and Jonathan Stiever: here are 2 guys who are starters that are very likely to be coming out of the pen later on in the year, **if** the Sox acquire another starter, and **if**we don't have a SP go down with an injury, then it's Kopech likely going to the rotation. Now I know some people are down on Stiever seeing 92-95 and not 94-97 and some inconsistency and nerves, but if his stuff gets back and he's coming out of the pen, he could be a weapon at the front who could push some guys back. And Kopech obviously has the ability to be a monster coming out of the pen. 8 ) SP is still a bigger need. Don't spend $11M on a low-upside type when you can spend some more on a higher-upside type. 9) Tony needs more money to buy alcohol. You can't spend it all on Hendriks. then he'll have nothing to drink. My solution: try to bring Colome back on a 1-year guaranteed deal. Check in on David Robertson on a MiLB contract with a low base also. Move on to the best 1-year guy you can if Colome can't be had for 1 guaranteed year. Look to make a reasonable trade if all else fails. And if we're going to spend more money, put it toward the best SP available. I know what hurts, my finger from scrolling through that post on my phone. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: I know what hurts, my finger from scrolling through that post on my phone. Do they encourage reading in Chicago? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 1 hour ago, YourWhatHurts said: This site is stupid. Yesterday people were b****ing all day about Adam Eaton coming back, even after knowing Springer wasn't happening and there was no other choice but to try to find the tallest midget among 2nd tier options. And now today everybody wants to give like $40M guaranteed to a reliever. Unbelievable. You're feelings get hurt really easily for someone who loves to call people names. 2 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 36 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Imagine stealing 10 billion dollars, buying a baseball team with it, and then saying you need to keep "payroll flexibility" with your stolen money lol. Wonder if Steve is going to hire some more people to call team employees late at night to intimidate and harrass them hoping they quit their job so he can capitalize on it. You want owners who can spend money without limits. This will apply to the majority of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 10, 2020 Share Posted December 10, 2020 24 minutes ago, Soxnfins said: True statement as I just drove to SC the week before last and went through TN... it’s optional everywhere south of Indiana ? South of highway 30 is more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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