NCsoxfan Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Vulture said: If you’re going that route at closer might as well just resign Colomé and go with the safer bet. Or sign someone like Petit to setup and go with Bummer Colome isn’t a value play. You’ll end up paying a high price for a second tier closer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) I’d rather do that than go with a closer coming off elbow surgery. Edited December 13, 2020 by Vulture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I remember watching brad hand pitch against the Sox and being completely underwhelmed by his stuff, mainly his fastball. His delivery looked pretty deceptive, though. His numbers are consistently solid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer. The question was if the Sox were going the budget route. Obviously there are better options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 21 minutes ago, Vulture said: The question was if the Sox were going the budget route. Obviously there are better options Every team in baseball had the chance to acquire Hand for 1 year 10 million and passed on it. His next contract isn't going to break the bank. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Every team in baseball had the chance to acquire Hand for 1 year 10 million and passed on it. His next contract isn't going to break the bank. Sure but I was saying signing Colomé would be preferable to Yates given his elbow issues, or looking for other options with injury issues that suppress their value, not that he was the best option available. Edited December 13, 2020 by Vulture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 42 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: Brad Hand has equivalent surface stats, a strong track record, and much better peripherals than Colome. It doesn't have to be Hendriks or Colome if the Sox are set on having an established closer. Brad hand is awful 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Hand could also just replace bummers role and bummer could be closer if it meant you get the other SP you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Brad hand is awful Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 13, 2020 Author Share Posted December 13, 2020 10 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. Colome is awful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Colome is awful? His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 12 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Colome is awful? 23 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: Colome is awful too. 6 of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. 25 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Brad hand is awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes At some point “luck” becomes a skill. When you have 100+ innings of results you should probably doubt the stats. Are you also predicting the demise of TA? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes Sure, if you ignore his career. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: His peripherals blow. Can't count on a low babip again. All it takes is those ground balls to start finding holes Jack, I love you man, but this is an awful take. Just terrible. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 6 hours ago, South Side Hit Men said: I'm assuming they are already at $17M at $9M for Lynn and $8M with Eaton including the buyout. Perhaps $20M if you include a bump in manager salary for LaRussa, plus Arizona legal costs / bribes. $30M dropped of the books this year with Parrot, Herrera, Gonzalez and Mazara gone, so treading water vs. last year's $120M level (only $50M actually paid - Jerry still made money last season - open the books you lying POS), or $30M more? I guess time will tell. Forgot Colome,McCann and Rodon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 Maybe we should just get Oliver Perez instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Brad hand is awful He's literally been one of the best relievers in baseball in *each* of the last 5 seasons. 3 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Look at Ray Ray Run Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, maxjusttyped said: He's literally been one of the best relievers in baseball in *each* of the last 5 seasons. Yeah, I know his production has been good. Id never bet on him though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: Yeah, I know his production has been good. Id never bet on him though. This is what I think when I watch him. Completely mediocre fastball. Breaking stuff seems decent. Delivery looks deceptive, but I still can't believe the numbers he has put up with the stuff he has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 20 minutes ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: This is what I think when I watch him. Completely mediocre fastball. Breaking stuff seems decent. Delivery looks deceptive, but I still can't believe the numbers he has put up with the stuff he has. He’s striking out 13/9 over the last five years. What exactly is happening? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 1 minute ago, Sambuca said: He’s striking out 13/9 over the last five years. What exactly is happening? Deception and good command? The stuff doesn't look overpowering, but it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox1917 Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Yearnin' for Yermin said: I remember watching brad hand pitch against the Sox and being completely underwhelmed by his stuff, mainly his fastball. His delivery looked pretty deceptive, though. His numbers are consistently solid. Every time i watch him i think he sucks 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted December 13, 2020 Share Posted December 13, 2020 I’m getting less optimistic with every passing day that the Sox will sign Hendriks. Watch some team swoop in and get him while the Sox are still haggling over a couple million dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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