Flash Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Hope we don't go four years. Would actually prefer 2 at 13/per plus option/buyout ($4M) but the law of supply and demand will prevail. I like him but he is not infallible (7 blown saves in 2019). I would try to sign someone for 2 years and hope one of the youngsters (Burdi, Johnson, Heuer maybe Crochet) can step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GREEDY Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This is it for me; they're not going to spend the money anywhere else so fuck it; spend it on Hendriks. No one here disagrees with you. Everyone assumes there is a budget (as fair or unfair that it may be) and even if it isn't reached during this offseason that eventually we will be up against it during this "window". So, if we are burning just to burn let's not do it on the books in 2024 when the front office could have much more pressing needs than "which expensive veteran reliever to overpay". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 50 minutes ago, Orlando said: Here comes NBC Sports. Listen Ryan , I have seen the Sox play chess before and they really suck at chess. Him and Vinnie Duber are the two biggest water carriers on Earth. I know they are paid to do that but it’s still disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) They've already shown us they're not spending top dollar for a position player or starting pitcher so if they're willing to spend top dollar on a closer so be it. It's not where I originally would have wanted them to go but if that's the route they've decided then I don't care if it's a 4 year deal, just get the top guy in here. Edited December 14, 2020 by Rowand44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Him and Vinnie Duber are the two biggest water carriers on Earth. I know they are paid to do that but it’s still disgusting. In Guff's defense, he'll at least call out bad moves and questionable decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rowand44 said: They've already shown us they're not spending top dollar for a position player or starting pitcher so if they're willing to spend top dollar on a closer than so be it. It's not where I originally would have wanted them to go but if that's the route they've decided to then I don't care if it's a 4 year deal, just get the top guy in here. I'd rather them spend that money on Tanaka/Odorizzi and Bradley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Tommy Kahnle's fastball numbers looked really good in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 30 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said: This is it for me; they're not going to spend the money anywhere else so fuck it; spend it on Hendriks. I wouldn't even want a closer for four years - especially at his age and the brief history of success for most closers - but I know they're not going to reinvest that money anyway so ff it. The Sox have spent the past few years saying they were ready to play with the big boys but all they've done is continue to refuse to ever overpay anyone which is required to sign bigger FA's. They just have never learned their lesson despite all the milks they've drank at the table. Paying $7 million for 0-1 WAR for multiple players every year is way more of an overpay to me than paying Springer or Bauer 5/125 and having them produce 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 WAR over the contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Him and Vinnie Duber are the two biggest water carriers on Earth. I know they are paid to do that but it’s still disgusting. I don't see how this is water carrying or disgusting. 4 Years is a bit long for a relief pitcher. When these guys hit the wall, it's unbearable. (see Kelvin Herrera) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, HOFHurt35 said: I don't see how this is water carrying or disgusting. 4 Years is a bit long for a relief pitcher. When these guys hit the wall, it's unbearable. (see Kelvin Herrera) Jerry isn’t going to pay Bauer. He also isn’t going to pay Springer. Hendriks is the next best option. I would rather overpay him than have that money continue to sit in Jerry’s wallet. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Jerry isn’t going to pay Bauer. He also isn’t going to pay Springer. Hendriks is the next best option. I would rather overpay him than have that money continue to sit in Jerry’s wallet. Get Liam, trade prospects for Snell (who's cheap and controllable) and call it a great off-season to WIN NOW 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, shago said: Snell The package required would be insane. I would imagine something like Vaughn, Madrigal, Cease, and Kelly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, hi8is said: The package required would be insane. I would imagine something like Vaughn, Madrigal, Cease, and Kelly. Do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 minute ago, shago said: Do it No way Jose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: The package required would be insane. I would imagine something like Vaughn, Madrigal, Cease, and Kelly. No. That's better than the Sale deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: No. That's better than the Sale deal. I still wouldn't do it for 3 of those 4 guys. Wouldn't even do it for Vaughn and Madrigal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: No way Jose. 2 minutes ago, hi8is said: No way Jose. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: So if that's the case why is Hendriks still unsigned? I think we have learned from Machado that things don't get better with time if you try to wait them out. Also, as teams with larger budgets lose out on other players they will eventually turn to this guy too and we will get priced out. If they are saying we need to go cheap in RF to get our closer then get the closer. Edited December 14, 2020 by SoCalChiSox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 14, 2020 Author Share Posted December 14, 2020 1 hour ago, fathom said: Robertson was someone they had to trade along with an asset just to clear the salary for a weak return Wasn’t Robertson almost traded to the Nats for Luzardo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 29 minutes ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Jerry isn’t going to pay Bauer. He also isn’t going to pay Springer. Hendriks is the next best option. I would rather overpay him than have that money continue to sit in Jerry’s wallet. Technically Jerry is just one of the investors, the most high profile. IIRC he owns about 20%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shago Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, hi8is said: I still wouldn't do it for 3 of those 4 guys. Wouldn't even do it for Vaughn and Madrigal. Why, so we can maybe be good in a few years when we lose control of everyone? He's under control for 3 yrs, which matches perfectly with our Cuban player bet. Wager the farm. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: Wasn’t Robertson almost traded to the Nats for Luzardo? I believe so, and the Nats owner backed off right at the end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: So if that's the case why is Hendriks still unsigned? I think we have learned from Machado that things don't get better with time if you try to wait them out. Also, as teams with larger budgets lose out on other players they will eventually turn to this guy too and we will get priced out. If they are saying we need to go cheap in RF to get our closer then get the closer. Opinion: They went cheap in RF to land Hendriks, but his market is robust and he's seeing if he can get a 4th year. Someone other than the Sox will give it to him, and the Sox will get caught with their pants down yet again, as by the time Hendriks signs elsewhere the other closers have been scooped up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted December 14, 2020 Share Posted December 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: So if that's the case why is Hendriks still unsigned? I think we have learned from Machado that things don't get better with time if you try to wait them out. Also, as teams with larger budgets lose out on other players they will eventually turn to this guy too and we will get priced out. If they are saying we need to go cheap in RF to get our closer then get the closer. You answered your own question. Hendricks is unsigned because he know as teams with larger budgets lose out on other players they will eventually turn to him and we will get priced out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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