CentralChamps21 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 I saw this and thought it was interesting. The only way it would have made sense for the Sox to compete with the Mets offer is if he and Grandal were both in the lineup every day as catcher and DH, and I'm not sure McCann was good enough to justify blocking Vaughn. It will suck on the days Grandal is off because I think Collins will be a black hole in the lineup but I don't know how that could have been avoided. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 2 hours ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: I saw this and thought it was interesting. The only way it would have made sense for the Sox to compete with the Mets offer is if he and Grandal were both in the lineup every day as catcher and DH, and I'm not sure McCann was good enough to justify blocking Vaughn. It will suck on the days Grandal is off because I think Collins will be a black hole in the lineup but I don't know how that could have been avoided. Wait, Realmuto has 80 WAR in 2.5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 15, 2020 Share Posted December 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Balta1701 said: Wait, Realmuto has 80 WAR in 2.5 years? Yup, has averaged about 32 WAR/season since 2018. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 Wow seeing it back-loaded like that makes it sting a bit even though there was zero chance he was coming back to be a backup. The new Mets ownership appears to know what they are doing, that's good for baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 McCann started 45% of the games in 2020. That's not a backup. That's a time share. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 3 hours ago, WhiteSoxFan1993 said: I saw this and thought it was interesting. The only way it would have made sense for the Sox to compete with the Mets offer is if he and Grandal were both in the lineup every day as catcher and DH, and I'm not sure McCann was good enough to justify blocking Vaughn. It will suck on the days Grandal is off because I think Collins will be a black hole in the lineup but I don't know how that could have been avoided. Seeing Tyler Flowers on that list makes me optimistic there's a path forward for a guy like Collins. He has enough power and takes enough pitches to probably become passable offensively. If he can continue to show defensive improvement I'm willing to live the struggles when Grandal needs a day off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 The one factor both Grandal and McCann fans/Stans fail to acknowledge is the fact that for a mid level payroll team like the White Sox ($120M-$140M), a high priced offense producing catcher is a luxury the team cannot afford. Even if Grandal gives you similar production in his final three seasons as to when he was in his prime, he is taking up $18M or around 15% of the payroll, with 25 others on the roster. On a $200M team, it's a more reasonable 9% payroll committment. The Sox would be far better off having say Pederson/Bradley Jr. in RF, Schwarber in LF and Jimenez at DH (or Pederson/Bradley Jr., Jimenez and Vaughn if he's ready) and a solid defensive catching team ($4-5M each). The team wasted $18M last year on two much easier positions to fill (Parrot and Mazara), and Eaton will likely produce the same as Mazara next year. This is why I opposed the Grandal signing last year (Keuchel was the only signing I liked), and why I am glad the Sox never came close to signing Machado or Harper. I also support passing on Springer or Bauer, unless they plan on significantly and permanently increasing their annual payroll by the equivalent amount. There is no evidence that is their intention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CentralChamps21 Posted December 16, 2020 Share Posted December 16, 2020 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: Wait, Realmuto has 80 WAR in 2.5 years? Supposed to be RAA not WAR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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