Dominikk85 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 Does the good performance by collins and yermin in spring increase the odds of Vaughn signing an extension? Without them fan pressure to bring up Vaughn would be very high but with them performing I think most fans and media would be OK with Vaughn being down a couple weeks so the front office has a good leverage to say if you want to be up at opening day sign this extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 7 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: Does the good performance by collins and yermin in spring increase the odds of Vaughn signing an extension? Without them fan pressure to bring up Vaughn would be very high but with them performing I think most fans and media would be OK with Vaughn being down a couple weeks so the front office has a good leverage to say if you want to be up at opening day sign this extension. Their performance has no effect on the extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 23, 2021 Author Share Posted March 23, 2021 52 minutes ago, Pal said: Their performance has no effect on the extension. Hear anything more on this Pal? Surprised nothing has been announced yet with the amount of smoke out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 48 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Hear anything more on this Pal? Surprised nothing has been announced yet with the amount of smoke out there. Been expecting the announcement for over 2 weeks. Nothing new. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Pal said: Their performance has no effect on the extension. Is this happening? Lots of smoke, then nothing Nevermind, I see your post above. Edited March 23, 2021 by Squirmin' for Yermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quickman Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just a morning thought, if Vaughn doesn’t get extended does he go back down and start the season in triple A until we get that year of eligibility back? Thinking with Grandal still nursing he can Dh and eloy can also spot Dh for a month. Just a thought. Have not heard much on the extensions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Take is FWIW, but Nightengale is reporting that extension talks have cooled between Vaughn and the Sox. Who knows, but it certainly seemed like the extension was all but done last week. I still think it gets done before the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, hogan873 said: Take is FWIW, but Nightengale is reporting that extension talks have cooled between Vaughn and the Sox. Who knows, but it certainly seemed like the extension was all but done last week. I still think it gets done before the season starts. Was this from a radio interview? Not seeing anything from him on Twitter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogan873 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Was this from a radio interview? Not seeing anything from him on Twitter. It was in a USA today article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominikk85 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 I could understand Vaughn not signing an extension. Yeah it means he won't break camp but really if he signs an extension that signs him through age 31 or so while that offers financial security it also means hitting the FA market at a quite unfavorable age for a 1b man plus first basemen tend to be payed well in arbitration as this is still looking at old school stats like BA, Homers and RBIs. Also Vaughn got a pretty big bonus so he can bet on himself. Really for him an extension to make sense it needs to be a lot of money. He probably can make like 40m before free agency if he is a good as advertised so taking like 60m and delaying his free agency into his 30s doesn't make much sense. Sure if the sox offer him like 90m today he probably has to take it but I don't believe they will do that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 The story seems to suggest he will start the season with the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 (edited) I really wish the Sox would offer Giolito the same amount of money they offered Wheeler right now. Gio is a a younger, better pitcher than Wheeler. Break it down this way: 2022: 13M 2023: 22 M 2024-26: 30M Total: 5 years $125M. Edited March 24, 2021 by Jack Parkman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Al’s Beef saying the Vaughn extension is done and then whining about respect as usual: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Also claims they are working on a Giolito extension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 Any minute ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Gimme the chz... Extra chz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxjusttyped Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 1 hour ago, Chicago White Sox said: Any minute ? It's since been deleted (I think) but he claimed Tatis' injury yesterday was worse than the Padres were letting on. The guy definitely doesn't bat 1.0000 on his reports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 9 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It's since been deleted (I think) but he claimed Tatis' injury yesterday was worse than the Padres were letting on. The guy definitely doesn't bat 1.0000 on his reports. No one does. BUT, it's unquestioned, he somehow has at least some bit of insider source/knowledge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted March 24, 2021 Author Share Posted March 24, 2021 24 minutes ago, maxjusttyped said: It's since been deleted (I think) but he claimed Tatis' injury yesterday was worse than the Padres were letting on. The guy definitely doesn't bat 1.0000 on his reports. I could be wrong, but that was Portillo’s I believe, but your point still holds true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxJon Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I really wish the Sox would offer Giolito the same amount of money they offered Wheeler right now. Gio is a a younger, better pitcher than Wheeler. Break it down this way: 2022: 13M 2023: 22 M 2024-26: 30M Total: 5 years $125M. Wow, I love this Arguably the best thing I've seen on this Forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 McCullers just got 5/85 for an extenstion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: I really wish the Sox would offer Giolito the same amount of money they offered Wheeler right now. Gio is a a younger, better pitcher than Wheeler. Break it down this way: 2022: 13M 2023: 22 M 2024-26: 30M Total: 5 years $125M. So you've got Giolito giving up 3 years of Free Agency time, and hitting FA again at age 32 rather than at age 29? If he stays this good of a pitcher, he's giving up an awful lot of career earnings by signing that deal. If, as some people have said, he's interested in the largest contract he can get, then this is a nonstarter from their side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 Just now, turnin' two said: McCullers just got 5/85 for an extenstion. Horrible news for a Giolito extension.. If I were Gio I'd ask for double. Lance Mccullers cant stay healthy and isn't even close the pitcher to Gio. wowza. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted March 24, 2021 Share Posted March 24, 2021 4 hours ago, Dominikk85 said: I could understand Vaughn not signing an extension. Yeah it means he won't break camp but really if he signs an extension that signs him through age 31 or so while that offers financial security it also means hitting the FA market at a quite unfavorable age for a 1b man plus first basemen tend to be payed well in arbitration as this is still looking at old school stats like BA, Homers and RBIs. Also Vaughn got a pretty big bonus so he can bet on himself. Really for him an extension to make sense it needs to be a lot of money. He probably can make like 40m before free agency if he is a good as advertised so taking like 60m and delaying his free agency into his 30s doesn't make much sense. Sure if the sox offer him like 90m today he probably has to take it but I don't believe they will do that. Assuming Vaughn were to sign an 8 year deal, he's giving up 1 year of FA control, so the extension is the difference between FA at age 30 vs 31. That one isn't a huge difference unless he gets hurt or falls apart during that last year. To get a $40 million guarantee - that's a pretty straightforward and logical move for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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