Chicago White Sox Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 1 hour ago, flavum said: I'm going 6-man until May 11. If not 6-man, 6 day. First 40 games, 7 starts for Giolito, Keuchel, Lynn, and Cease; 6 starts for Lopez and Rodon. Then Game 41-43 vs Twins is Giolito, Keuchel, Lynn. At least that would be the plan until weather/injuries changes it. Then Kopech gets in there when he earns it or somebody gets hurt, traded, etc. You want to go with a six man rotation when we have six off-days in our first 40 games and the likelihood of a few rainouts? Finding reasons to give both Rodon & Lopez starts at the same time seems like a good way to dig ourselves a hole to start the season. I’d much rather skip the fifth starter spot altogether on off-days and just limit our top four starters to shorter starts over the first six weeks. That seems like the better plan of attack if you believe our bullpen is the real deal. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flavum Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: You want to go with a six man rotation when we have six off-days in our first 40 games and the likelihood of a few rainouts? Finding reasons to give both Rodon & Lopez starts at the same time seems like a good way to dig ourselves a hole to start the season. I’d much rather skip the fifth starter spot altogether on off-days and just limit our top four starters to shorter starts over the first six weeks. That seems like the better plan of attack if you believe our bullpen is the real deal. Long season, coming off a 60-game season. I'd rather ease in, see who stands out, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, flavum said: Long season, coming off a 60-game season. I'd rather ease in, see who stands out, I don’t like the idea of guys pitching on six days rest that frequently on top of giving 30% of our first 40 starts to Rodon & Lopez. With only five playoff teams there needs to be a greater sense of urgency than that IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sambuca Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 No way Kopech is on this team opening day. This is one of the times you want the extra year of control and it’s actually in the best interest of everyone to do it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roto Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 13 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: You want to go with a six man rotation when we have six off-days in our first 40 games and the likelihood of a few rainouts? Finding reasons to give both Rodon & Lopez starts at the same time seems like a good way to dig ourselves a hole to start the season. I’d much rather skip the fifth starter spot altogether on off-days and just limit our top four starters to shorter starts over the first six weeks. That seems like the better plan of attack if you believe our bullpen is the real deal. I'd skip the 5th spot when there's an off-day too. Looks like you'll need that 5th guy three times in April unless the weather comes into play. If you want to get him (Rodon?) some work just use him in a long man fashion as that'll lessen the need to use Lopez. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 6 hours ago, Sambuca said: No way Kopech is on this team opening day. This is one of the times you want the extra year of control and it’s actually in the best interest of everyone to do it. That means he doesn't come up until June. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 36 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: That means he doesn't come up until June. Which is fine. They need him more for second half of the season tbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 hour ago, roto said: I'd skip the 5th spot when there's an off-day too. Looks like you'll need that 5th guy three times in April unless the weather comes into play. If you want to get him (Rodon?) some work just use him in a long man fashion as that'll lessen the need to use Lopez. I always say this in reply - I hate using Mr. offday as the 5th starter in a normal year more than a couple times all year. This year, coming off a season where guys' innings and arm work went completely haywire, you should really want to keep a 5 man rotation and give your starters the extra day of rest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 16 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: I don’t like the idea of guys pitching on six days rest that frequently on top of giving 30% of our first 40 starts to Rodon & Lopez. With only five playoff teams there needs to be a greater sense of urgency than that IMO. It's ok. The likelihood of Rodon actually being healthy enough to pitch is low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jack Parkman said: That means he doesn't come up until June. Perfect. Easier to let him get more rest in the minors and save some innings for the back half of the year if he is on an innings limit. Edited February 15, 2021 by manbearpuig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitownsportsfan Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 Why the fuck are we bending over backwards to pencil in some Rodon starts? He's on a middle relief salary and has a middle relief arm. Come on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShoeLessRob Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 1 minute ago, chitownsportsfan said: Why the fuck are we bending over backwards to pencil in some Rodon starts? He's on a middle relief salary and has a middle relief arm. Come on. Cause this team failed to address the SP depth and sign someone they could plug into the 5th starter role to be a bridge for Kopech. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I always say this in reply - I hate using Mr. offday as the 5th starter in a normal year more than a couple times all year. This year, coming off a season where guys' innings and arm work went completely haywire, you should really want to keep a 5 man rotation and give your starters the extra day of rest. I've got Rodon down for 200 innings Not many guys do that anymore. The trend is obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) I would think this is the last opportunity for Rodon and Lopez. If they don’t produce this year they are gone. They have been given plenty of chances. Edited February 15, 2021 by maloney.adam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, maloney.adam said: I would think this is the last opportunity for Rodon and Lopez. If they don’t produce this year they are gone. They have been given plenty of chances. If 2020 wasn't the last opportunity for Rodon, then there will always be a chance. What are the odds the White Sox will be looking for very cheap starting pitching next offseason? Seems pretty high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rounding_Third Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 2 hours ago, Balta1701 said: If 2020 wasn't the last opportunity for Rodon, then there will always be a chance. What are the odds the White Sox will be looking for very cheap starting pitching next offseason? Seems pretty high. For sure! Also, I'd be shocked if the Sox didn't pick up a good cheap SP before the trade deadline. They have plenty of reserve cash. There are about 65 SP's who will be FA's after this season; many on sellers by that time. They'll have a good idea where Kopech stands for shutdown. If need be, maybe go with a 6 man rotation until he's done. Probably be some DH's scheduled in Aug & Sept by then. And have another quality SP for playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roto Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 20 hours ago, ShoeLessRob said: Cause this team failed to address the SP depth and sign someone they could plug into the 5th starter role to be a bridge for Kopech. I can't figure out why this FO hasn''t addressed this. We are going to need innings even when Kopech is ready. I know I've been hammering on this but Mike Leake is still out there. He'd cost minimal money, has no injury history, makes all of his scheduled starts, and might keep Matt Tomshaw in the minors where he belongs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roto Posted February 16, 2021 Share Posted February 16, 2021 22 hours ago, Balta1701 said: I always say this in reply - I hate using Mr. offday as the 5th starter in a normal year more than a couple times all year. This year, coming off a season where guys' innings and arm work went completely haywire, you should really want to keep a 5 man rotation and give your starters the extra day of rest. Good point. Try to keep them fresh for late summer. Maybe the plan is to use Crochet as an opener to Rodon (or more likely the other way around) for a few of those fifth starter starts as it seems the Sox are hell bent on putting Crochet in the pen this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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hi8is Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Just want him to be healthy all year. That’s my goal for the kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Harold's Leg Lift Posted February 17, 2021 Share Posted February 17, 2021 They are so fucking impatient. They can't wait for him to develop into the best pitcher he can be they have to open the present now and play with the new shiny thing. Idiots 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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