bmags Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I just saw this on Twitter, but we’re potentially getting Cespedes cheaper than Yogurt Sanchez. That’s pretty fucking nuts when you think about the difference in hype and talent. I wonder if they have the same rep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I just saw this on Twitter, but we’re potentially getting Cespedes cheaper than Yogurt Sanchez. That’s pretty fucking nuts when you think about the difference in hype and talent. If the Cuban stars align, Yolbert will click and Cespedes gets up here quickly, allowing the Sox to roll out this line up: SS - Anderson 3B - Moncada 1B - Abreu LF - Eloy C - Grandal CF - Robert DH - Vaughn RF - Cespedes 2B - Yolbert P - Vera (who for the sake of this scenario, quickly ascended through the Sox farm system in a way no one saw coming). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EloyJenkins Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Moves like this show they are committed to winning NOW, but also keeping the window open for more than just 2-3 years. Good organizations keep adding top talent. The White Sox just did. Let's go Yolki-C! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Vaughn/Kopech/Crochet/Cespedes/Kelley/Dalquist/Thompson. Is this still a top 10 farm? We’d be one of the few teams with a playoff caliber roster and a Top 10 farm. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, SoxSteve said: So when the first thread start on trading away Cespedes and Norge Vera for starting pitcher, lol. Lol. Well not until Céspedes comes up and gets 2 hits his first game. ONLY THEN will we have the needed data to project what a great career he will have. “2 hits x 162 = 324 hits per year...but I don’t want to be ridiculous so let’s just say he averages 275 hits per year for 6 injury-free years. This is basically his floor worst case.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/mlb/2019/10/31/white-sox-trade-center-welington-castillo-to-rangers/40523555/ They traded $250K only, Castillo's buyout was $500K. Edit: This is false on both accounts. They haven't been barred on trading for 2020 period, which ends either this month for next. There is no trading for the next two signing period. Either way, I just don't think the $250K is really preventing them from signing both, if their money remaining + $250K is enough to sign Colas. I thought it was the Nate Jones buyout, and that was $500k. That's where the confusion came from. I was under the impression that the barred International pool trades included 2020. Do you have a link that says that it doesn't? Edited December 22, 2020 by Jack Parkman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveno89 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Quin said: If the Cuban stars align, Yolbert will click and Cespedes gets up here quickly, allowing the Sox to roll out this line up: SS - Anderson 3B - Moncada 1B - Abreu LF - Eloy C - Grandal CF - Robert DH - Vaughn RF - Cespedes 2B - Yolbert P - Vera (who for the sake of this scenario, quickly ascended through the Sox farm system in a way no one saw coming). Did Madrigal die? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Awesome get. It's hard to believe Colas would delay his signing for another year but would have to know how many teams have anything close to $500k+ left. If the Sox make another trade I'm expecting one or more our Adolfo, Rutherford, Gonzalez trio along with Sheets, Collins and Mercedes to be moved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 49 minutes ago, Quin said: I was going specifically with prospects, not international free agents. If we included international free agents, then we have to include Abreu and Ohtani. Oh well you said coming from Cuba. Ohtani would have an interesting case for that criteria. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, steveno89 said: Did Madrigal die? It's his off day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Flash said: Thats a strong top ten...especially with Vera orbiting around the top as well. I originally had Vera 10th, but am super high on Burdi’s talent and think he has a chance to be a special reliever if he has can learn to harness his stuff. But yeah, it’s a great top 10 for now, but the first four guys will likely lose eligibility at some point next season and we’ll definitely need a few of our younger prospects to step up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold's Leg Lift Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 2 hours ago, soxfan49 said: Is that ranking for this signing period? That's a pretty big disparity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, manbearpuig said: Madrigal didn't graduate? Not yet I don’t believe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 No tweet from the Cespedes Family Barbecue yet ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thxfrthmmrs Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 18 minutes ago, Jack Parkman said: I thought it was the Nate Jones buyout, and that was $500k. That's where the confusion came from. I was under the impression that the barred International pool trades included 2020. Do you have a link that says that it doesn't? The 2020 signing period was mostly in the books when they made the rule change, so it didn't make sense for them to implement the no trade rule, so I think they just extended the 2020 period, and the no trade rule applies for future periods only. Here's the link: https://www.baseballamerica.com/stories/new-deal-saves-2020-mlb-draft-but-hurts-incoming-talent/ Quote Perhaps just as important, MLB teams will not be allowed to trade bonus pool allotments in either of the next two international signing periods. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 1 hour ago, manbearpuig said: Madrigal didn't graduate? From high school? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thad Bosley Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 I wonder if any of our fine Cuban ambassadors in Jose, Yoan, Luis, and/or Yasmani had anything to do with encouraging Yoelqui to sign with the Sox. At the very least it would seem this is the organization of choice for Cuban ball players. I think the Sox are proving to be a great landing spot for these players. Hopefully that reputation will rub off on other potential Latin players from other countries where the team hasn’t been quite as successful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 29 minutes ago, thxfrthmmrs said: Vaughn/Kopech/Crochet/Cespedes/Kelley/Dalquist/Thompson. Is this still a top 10 farm? We’d be one of the few teams with a playoff caliber roster and a Top 10 farm. 100% it’s a top 10 farm at the moment because very few systems have a top four like ours. The problem is that will change in like six months and suddenly the system will be bottom 10 baring some breakout performances next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 19 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I originally had Vera 10th, but am super high on Burdi’s talent and think he has a chance to be a special reliever if he has can learn to harness his stuff. But yeah, it’s a great top 10 for now, but the first four guys will likely lose eligibility at some point next season and we’ll definitely need a few of our younger prospects to step up. Hope Bball in general and minor league/affiliates get sorted so we can enjoy watching these guys develop. I'm very high on Crochet and Stiever and anxious to see what Kopech can do if he can stay healthy and avoid distractions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 8 minutes ago, fathom said: From high school? YoCes is only an inch taller if indeed Madrigal is 5'8". I was taller than both in probably 7th grade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: I wonder if any of our fine Cuban ambassadors in Jose, Yoan, Luis, and/or Yasmani had anything to do with encouraging Yoelqui to sign with the Sox. At the very least it would seem this is the organization of choice for Cuban ball players. I think the Sox are proving to be a great landing spot for these players. Hopefully that reputation will rub off on other potential Latin players from other countries where the team hasn’t been quite as successful. It would be foolish to think they didn't all talk when we know how much recruiting work has happened in the past. Heck we have seen Colas thanking Moncada for sending him bats and wearing Sox shirts in his vids. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiddleCoastBias Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Thad Bosley said: I wonder if any of our fine Cuban ambassadors in Jose, Yoan, Luis, and/or Yasmani had anything to do with encouraging Yoelqui to sign with the Sox. At the very least it would seem this is the organization of choice for Cuban ball players. I think the Sox are proving to be a great landing spot for these players. Hopefully that reputation will rub off on other potential Latin players from other countries where the team hasn’t been quite as successful. This. We always talk about building the next generation of fans and how the team's performance competes with the cubs for the next generation of fans Imagine if we can sustain this pipeline of talent and build the next generation of Cuban fans that grow up watching their favorite players on the Sox, and then they too want to play for the Sox. Success begets success. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 (edited) HELL YEA! I was one of the few who preferred Cespedes over Colas. Very happy with this news. If Colas does sign with us as well, even better. Edited December 22, 2020 by SoxAce 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Just now, MiddleCoastBias said: This. We always talk about building the next generation of fans and how the team's performance competes with the cubs for the next generation of fans Imagine if we can sustain this pipeline of talent and build the next generation of Cuban fans that grow up watching their favorite players on the Sox, and then they too want to play for the Sox. Success begets success. We are on to the second generation of these signings now. The Alexei Ramirez signing happened 13 years ago, yesterday. The Viciedo signing happened in November of 2008. Jose Abreu was in October of 2013. It is officially a pipeline. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 3 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: This. We always talk about building the next generation of fans and how the team's performance competes with the cubs for the next generation of fans Imagine if we can sustain this pipeline of talent and build the next generation of Cuban fans that grow up watching their favorite players on the Sox, and then they too want to play for the Sox. Success begets success. Ok I'll say it. Imagine the fan building in the DR had the Sox kept F. Tatis, Jr. Oh well more work to do for that in the DR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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