bmags Posted December 22, 2020 Share Posted December 22, 2020 Season start's tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Drafted 4 fantasy leagues! First time following a little NBA in over 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Just feels like the Bulls are so far away from being competitive. My boy Wendell is terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 Wendell and Coby look horrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, ron883 said: Wendell and Coby look horrible. Coby will be better. Wendell - I have no idea. Williams looked solid for a first game but good god what an ass whooping. I do think the Hawks are good - but not this good. I’ll hold major judgement for at least 10-15 games given change in system, minimal preseason, etc - but what a dog of a first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 28 minutes ago, fathom said: Just feels like the Bulls are so far away from being competitive. My boy Wendell is terrible. This team is just trash. Sell assets and look down the road. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 The Garpax Boylen stench does not wash off so easily lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinky Stanky Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: The Garpax Boylen stench does not wash off so easily lol Boylen's team played defense. But this bunch does have talent that will fetch something in return and I hope that happens sooner than later. This is a team of positionless players that just does not fit together. That is Gar/Pax's legacy. Keep it intact and they win 20. Trade assets for draft picks and they still win 20. Duh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 5 hours ago, Stinky Stanky said: Boylen's team played defense. But this bunch does have talent that will fetch something in return and I hope that happens sooner than later. This is a team of positionless players that just does not fit together. That is Gar/Pax's legacy. Keep it intact and they win 20. Trade assets for draft picks and they still win 20. Duh. I don't remember Boylens teams playing much of a defense, but I agree with the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted December 24, 2020 Author Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: I don't remember Boylens teams playing much of a defense, but I agree with the rest Well they had dunn/Harrison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 That was like NBA All Star game quality defense. Even Stacy called them out for a lack of effort a couple of times. I don't get why guys in the NBA in their early 20s who haven't played a game that counted in over 9 months, can't bust their asses for 30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 7 hours ago, Kyyle23 said: I don't remember Boylens teams playing much of a defense, but I agree with the rest The bulls actually graded out decently defensively last year. The blitz style Boylen introduced was actually pretty solid and probably a pretty good use of his personel (on the d side of the house)s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 9 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: The bulls actually graded out decently defensively last year. The blitz style Boylen introduced was actually pretty solid and probably a pretty good use of his personel (on the d side of the house)s That's funny because every analyst that comes on the score completely blasts it for leaving defenders tired and out of position and allowing way too many open threes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 6 minutes ago, Kyyle23 said: That's funny because every analyst that comes on the score completely blasts it for leaving defenders tired and out of position and allowing way too many open threes Maybe it made their offense worse but defensively - I don’t think those score analysts are correct. It is easy for everyone to just rip on everything Boylen did and there could be something to say that the blitz defense wasn’t sustainable - but it isn’t as if the unit ranked poorly. It was horrific offensively though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 1 minute ago, Chisoxfn said: Maybe it made their offense worse but defensively - I don’t think those score analysts are correct. It is easy for everyone to just rip on everything Boylen did and there could be something to say that the blitz defense wasn’t sustainable - but it isn’t as if the unit ranked poorly. It was horrific offensively though. https://www.bleachernation.com/bulls/2020/01/09/so-about-that-defense-and-other-bulls-bullets/ " Earlier this season, the Bulls stumbled their way into a top-3 defensive rating in the NBA. The stat gave Jim Boylen and his coaching staff something to hang their hat on, but expectedly so, ever since starting this five-game stretch against the Bucks, Jazz, Celtics, Mavs, and Pelicans, the Bulls defensive rating has started its descent. In other words, the hook holding Boylen’s hat lacks just as much backbone as this front office. The Bulls defensive rating has fallen to 8th-overall, and chances are, it’ll continue working its way down the leaderboards with the Indiana Pacers up next. If the Bulls are playing a team with a competent head coach or superior talent (which the Pelicans have at least one of with Alvin Gentry), their defense is out of luck. A common theme throughout the entire season has been the opposing team’s ability to make adjustments at halftime while the Bulls sit on their hands." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted December 24, 2020 Share Posted December 24, 2020 2 minutes ago, Chisoxfn said: Maybe it made their offense worse but defensively - I don’t think those score analysts are correct. It is easy for everyone to just rip on everything Boylen did and there could be something to say that the blitz defense wasn’t sustainable - but it isn’t as if the unit ranked poorly. It was horrific offensively though. It looks like it was making everything worse This was a consistent theme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 So... Are any of you in favor of trying to trade Zach? What would it take for you to trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 26, 2020 Share Posted December 26, 2020 15 minutes ago, ron883 said: So... Are any of you in favor of trying to trade Zach? What would it take for you to trade him? Of course you trade him, it’s not like they’re going to compete during his contract. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Is this the worst team in the NBA? Carter continues to be impossibly bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, fathom said: Is this the worst team in the NBA? Carter continues to be impossibly bad. Carter has regressed, somehow. He is bad at everything now apparently. The sad part is barely anybody on the team has value. Zach is the only one that can get you a decent 1st rounder. Guys like Thad Young or Otto may net you a late 1st from a contender. I can't believe what the Bucks traded for Jrue Holiday. I feel like Zach + Sato or even Zach + Lauri is a better trade for the Bucks, and similar salary. I would make either trades in a heartbeat. Edited December 27, 2020 by ron883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 I don't often do this (because I'm not usually wrong), but @Look at Ray Ray Run was completely correct about WCJ being trash and Sexton being a much better pick. WCJ can't even play defense now. The paint is free cheese for defenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 Can we all at least agree that with a new team president, GM, coach and Michael Reinsdorf that this team is irrelevant, they will sell assets and aim for the highest pick possible even though tanking does not guarantee the highest pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, The Beast said: Can we all at least agree that with a new team president, GM, coach and Michael Reinsdorf that this team is irrelevant, they will sell assets and aim for the highest pick possible even though tanking does not guarantee the highest pick? I'd hope so. It seems like Michael Reinsdorf will be more open to that than his father. They need to acquire as much talent possible right now, draft well, and sell some superstars on the idea of playing for the Bulls and in Chicago. The Chicago Bulls should definitely be a destination for stars. It is crazy that it hasn't been. Edited December 27, 2020 by ron883 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, ron883 said: I don't often do this (because I'm not usually wrong), but @Look at Ray Ray Run was completely correct about WCJ being trash and Sexton being a much better pick. WCJ can't even play defense now. The paint is free cheese for defenders. He wasn’t even very good at Duke. Just sucks they barley missed on Luka or Trae Young and got stuck with him. Edited December 27, 2020 by fathom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chi Town Sox Posted December 27, 2020 Share Posted December 27, 2020 2 hours ago, ron883 said: Carter has regressed, somehow. He is bad at everything now apparently. The sad part is barely anybody on the team has value. Zach is the only one that can get you a decent 1st rounder. Guys like Thad Young or Otto may net you a late 1st from a contender. I can't believe what the Bucks traded for Jrue Holiday. I feel like Zach + Sato or even Zach + Lauri is a better trade for the Bucks, and similar salary. I would make either trades in a heartbeat. Taking nothing away from Jrue Holiday, this would be an awful trade for the Bulls. Jrue Holiday has been in the playoffs 4 times in his 11 year career, three of those he shot less than 42% and less than 16ppg. He’s 30. Lavine has improved every year so far and is much younger. We have yet to see what he can do with a winning team around him and probably won’t. Who knows what Lauri is and we will get a better glimpse this year. Neither of there players are a top option but Holiday never has been or will be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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