Soxbadger Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Chisoxfn said: This 100% - probably the happiest thing I saw was the front office recognized it was time to move Carter (while he was still an asset) - and move him vs. getting worked up that maybe they sold low. I think as far as they were concerned - they were done waiting on Carter and wanted to move on - Magic are in a different place and maybe the trade/change in scenery helps...but a year from now Carter would probably be worse even less (had he stayed on the Bulls - especially when you think he's a year closer to FA). I also figure we will see Coby's value get restored in the 2nd half of the season - cause we are going to see him better positioned to succeed - going back to - they learned in 1st half of year what he is and probably isn't - now I think they are going to position him in the best spot - not only for his LT development (and getting it back on track) - but also to help this team win. Coby's value is directly tied to his ability to put a round sphere through a hoop. Until he can do that consistently it doesnt matter what position he plays. His problem is he shoots under 35% too often to be relied on to do anything. In college he shot 42%, in the pros he is at 44%. In the last 10 games he shot 33% or worse 6 times, he shot 50% or better 2x. Its hard to see a future for him if he doesnt dramatically increase his shooting percentage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 3 minutes ago, Soxbadger said: Coby's value is directly tied to his ability to put a round sphere through a hoop. Until he can do that consistently it doesnt matter what position he plays. His problem is he shoots under 35% too often to be relied on to do anything. In college he shot 42%, in the pros he is at 44%. In the last 10 games he shot 33% or worse 6 times, he shot 50% or better 2x. Its hard to see a future for him if he doesnt dramatically increase his shooting percentage. 100% agree - but I think him playing PG (or attempting to) - put more thoughts in his head and made him worse at doing what the reality is is his skillset. I think it effective his defense too - because the last turnover / mistake was getting into his head. Bottom line - he was thinking a TON vs. playing. I expect with him playing more off the bench + just having another option on the floor who is an above average scorer - and the general spacing increase that will come when you replace 1 player in a lineup who literally didn't look to score (Wendell/Gafford) - with someone who will score and can make others around them better - that will pay off too. That is my hope at least - it might be too much optimism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 55 minutes ago, Tony said: Cp3 would be an incredible fit for this roster, but not sure the Suns have any interest in letting him walk. I believe he has a player option for next season... he really would have. There are slim pickens next year. You either get ball, you S&T for lowry?, or perhaps you can net Dinwiddie. The rest is pretty garbage. Rose is like probably the 4th best option which should tell you something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 9 minutes ago, bmags said: he really would have. There are slim pickens next year. You either get ball, you S&T for lowry?, or perhaps you can net Dinwiddie. The rest is pretty garbage. Rose is like probably the 4th best option which should tell you something. I'm sure there will be some players / names we didn't expect who magically come available. There will be a team or two that flames out in the playoffs and all of a sudden a narrative changes. Heck - maybe the Warriors decide they need to rebuild or something else and next thing you know Curry is on the market (NO I Do not expect that - but who knows). But Kings are a mess organization that can never turn things around - does D'Aaron Fox want out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 31 minutes ago, bmags said: he really would have. There are slim pickens next year. You either get ball, you S&T for lowry?, or perhaps you can net Dinwiddie. The rest is pretty garbage. Rose is like probably the 4th best option which should tell you something. Hmmmm Dinwiddie wonder what GarPax would think about that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 26, 2021 Author Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Chisoxfn said: I'm sure there will be some players / names we didn't expect who magically come available. There will be a team or two that flames out in the playoffs and all of a sudden a narrative changes. Heck - maybe the Warriors decide they need to rebuild or something else and next thing you know Curry is on the market (NO I Do not expect that - but who knows). But Kings are a mess organization that can never turn things around - does D'Aaron Fox want out. Yeah Fox/Sexton maybe. Brogdon would be great but man I don't know that the Pacers, who are just extremely sound, would trade him without getting back a bunch of FRPs. But eventually OKC/NOLA are going to have to start cashing out picks, so it's a tough position that will probably need some luck and FA to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Vooch will wear 9. PWill switching to 44. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyyle23 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 Is there going to be any possible PG releases by other teams that could benefit the bulls? Someone maybe cut after being acquired as the team absorbed their expiring contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt3515 Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Kyyle23 said: Is there going to be any possible PG releases by other teams that could benefit the bulls? Someone maybe cut after being acquired as the team absorbed their expiring contract? I believe Teague (older, better one) was released after being traded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 They did what GarPax could not do. Trade for a star, hire a real coach. Get rid of dissippointing high draft picks while they still had value. Welcome back to the NBA Chicago Bulls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 My God this defense is a joke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 Not uh, living up to what I was looking forward to tonight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Worst fear was always giving up a high 1st rounder in a pretty loaded draft. Im willing to give them a few games, but when the trade was made I was worried, especially next years class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 AK's master plan is clear: Team doesn't quite gel in time, get Top 4 pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
102605 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Please send Lauri packing ASAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ron883 Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 My takeaways from the game. 1. The team had a huge roster overhaul. Nobody should have expected them to play well right away. They need a little time to build chemistry. Zach's ankle clearly wasn't right, too. I'm not worried. 2. I liked what I saw from Troy Brown. He's got good handles (and previous experience as a PG). The guy wasn't being utilized correctly in Washington this year. He WI be a pleasant surprise IMO. He definitely need to take minutes front Patrick Williams. PW is just too raw currently. 3. Daniel Theis will end up being a key piece for this team. He is the only above average defender at the PF/C positions. Lauri's defense was pathetic tonight. Thad and Vuc aren't anything to write home about on defense either. I would start Theis over Lauri, especially when Lauri can't hit his 3. 4. The team could really use a PG. No surprise there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tony Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 11 hours ago, ron883 said: My takeaways from the game. 1. The team had a huge roster overhaul. Nobody should have expected them to play well right away. They need a little time to build chemistry. Zach's ankle clearly wasn't right, too. I'm not worried. 2. I liked what I saw from Troy Brown. He's got good handles (and previous experience as a PG). The guy wasn't being utilized correctly in Washington this year. He WI be a pleasant surprise IMO. He definitely need to take minutes front Patrick Williams. PW is just too raw currently. 3. Daniel Theis will end up being a key piece for this team. He is the only above average defender at the PF/C positions. Lauri's defense was pathetic tonight. Thad and Vuc aren't anything to write home about on defense either. I would start Theis over Lauri, especially when Lauri can't hit his 3. 4. The team could really use a PG. No surprise there. The team is obviously still a work in progress, but it seems clear Lauri is on his way out. AK seemingly knows what the team needs, just going to take some time to acquire the pieces and make this team his own. I'm pretty excited for the future right now, which seems so foreign. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 28, 2021 Author Share Posted March 28, 2021 It really hurts not having practice time really with such a huge mid season shakeup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Yeah - I will wait and see how they do after a few weeks. I am just glad we saw some aggression - even though I don’t love losing those FRP - cause those assets are key. Would have been nice to have a few of those already being in this rebuild. I am kind of hoping we see Lauri benefit from playing next to a big who can play make and score. Should create a ton of space for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 Thaddeus Young should be starting over Markkanen. He is a much better fit with Vucevic and would basically be the PG in the lineup since he is the best passer on the team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 I hate the NBA buyout market. It's just BS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted March 29, 2021 Share Posted March 29, 2021 At this point I'll be shocked if Ball is anywhere other than Chicago next year. I think the Bulls can make a better pitch post-Vuc trade. @Chisoxfn should be happy. My guess is the Bulls hope that Ball keeps growing or Williams develops into the 3rd All-Star, or AKME is actually creative with future deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted March 29, 2021 Author Share Posted March 29, 2021 New York isn't a bad destination for him, either. There isn't a ton of places for them to spend money this offseason, and maybe thibs turns lonzo into ben simmons lite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Parkman Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 12 hours ago, bmags said: New York isn't a bad destination for him, either. There isn't a ton of places for them to spend money this offseason, and maybe thibs turns lonzo into ben simmons lite. My guess is he probably ends up in NY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
102605 Posted March 30, 2021 Share Posted March 30, 2021 The Bulls looking good with this new look. Theis brings some D that we have not seen in a Bulls uniform in quite some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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