Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:04 PM, SoxBlanco said: I think he does have connections. Wasn’t he the guy who called the Lynn trade shortly before it happened? Expand I thought he claimed a trade with the Cubs was happening the night the Lynn trade went down. Not sure if that was before or after the foodies claimed something was close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:08 PM, Chicago White Sox said: I thought he claimed a trade with the Cubs was happening the night the Lynn trade went down. Not sure if that was before or after the foodies claimed something was close. Expand To be fair, that was the rumor that night regarding Yu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I still have some burger thoughts but it feels like we moved past it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:20 PM, bmags said: I still have some burger thoughts but it feels like we moved past it. Expand Jake Burger thoughts? Any chance he can play 2B with his newfound athleticism? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ducksnort Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:20 PM, bmags said: I still have some burger thoughts but it feels like we moved past it. Expand I think the ship has unfortunately sailed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:07 PM, Chicago White Sox said: Didn’t he literally say he had heard a trade was materializing with the Cubs a few weeks back? Expand Actually I said the cubs were trading for Dunning about 6 hours before Lynn news broke. I said a trade was definitely coming and Dunning was gone. I'm not getting into it all, but that trade was incredibly close to being done. Insiders here will tell you the same...I thought they were getting Lynn and Gallo, but same person insisted that night it was Yu and Heyward. I was wrong about the deal but was hours ahead of the trade. Find my posts from that night, I'm not an insider or trying to be shit. I've put at least one other thing on here I was told that will be true. I'll keep whatever little bit of info I get that I know is good from here on out. Keep jacking off to all the foods that tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:27 PM, Pal said: Actually I said the cubs were trading for Dunning about 6 hours before Lynn news broke. I said a trade was definitely coming and Dunning was gone. I'm not getting into it all, but that trade was incredibly close to being done. Insiders here will tell you the same...I thought they were getting Lynn and Gallo, but same person insisted that night it was Yu and Heyward. I was wrong about the deal but was hours ahead of the trade. Find my posts from that night, I'm not an insider or trying to be shit. I've put at least one other thing on here I was told that will be true. I'll keep whatever little bit of info I get that I know is good from here on out. Keep jacking off to all the foods that tweet. Expand He wasn’t accusing you of anything, Pal. No need to get defensive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:27 PM, Pal said: Actually I said the cubs were trading for Dunning about 6 hours before Lynn news broke. I said a trade was definitely coming and Dunning was gone. I'm not getting into it all, but that trade was incredibly close to being done. Insiders here will tell you the same...I thought they were getting Lynn and Gallo, but same person insisted that night it was Yu and Heyward. I was wrong about the deal but was hours ahead of the trade. Find my posts from that night, I'm not an insider or trying to be shit. I've put at least one other thing on here I was told that will be true. I'll keep whatever little bit of info I get that I know is good from here on out. Keep jacking off to all the foods that tweet. Expand Easy bro...I was only teasing. Unfortunately for people who have shared stuff in the past, it’s sometimes hard to read what’s their speculation vs. what they’re actually hearing. Apologies if my post came off as aggressive and definitely don’t let me stop you from posting. I appreciate you or anyone for that manner sharing anything they hear, even if it’s secondhand. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 9:19 PM, Pal said: If I was a betting man, my money is on Marco Gonzalez when a trade gets done (not sure about Seager). Expand He might be a guy who requires a deeper dive into his pitching. He certainly pitched great in 2020. His K to BB ration spiked like way higher then it has ever been. A lot less walks and more K's. I thought I would briefly look into his 1st and 2nd half stats in 2018 and 2019 to see if maybe the short season was a false predictor of future performance. I didn't see anything that stood out. A deeper dive into why he was so much better in 2020 probably is in order. He could ve figured things out but he wasn't exactly chopped liver before last season either. But if you could get 2020 Marco Gonzales for 3 years you pull that trigger . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 10:57 PM, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: He might be a guy who requires a deeper dive into his pitching. He certainly pitched great in 2020. His K to BB ration spiked like way higher then it has ever been. A lot less walks and more K's. I thought I would briefly look into his 1st and 2nd half stats in 2018 and 2019 to see if maybe the short season was a false predictor of future performance. I didn't see anything that stood out. A deeper dive into why he was so much better in 2020 probably is in order. He could ve figured things out but he wasn't exactly chopped liver before last season either. But if you could get 2020 Marco Gonzales for 3 years you pull that trigger . Expand Wow. Was just looking at his numbers and 7 BBs??? Holy smokes! I would love to have that guy. That's pretty great. He has been reasonably good each of the last 3 seasons, but was at a different level last year. Even if he is the guy from the previous 2 years, that is certainly helpful, but the ever present question, is what is his cost? The 2018/19 version of him is really good as your 4 starter. The 2020 version gives you an unreal rotation. I don't follow the M's enough to know if that was real or the result of any significant change though. Figuring out a price on him would be complicated. I don't love Seager, if you need to take his on (hopefully part) of his deal. but it wouldn't be the end of the world. He'd be a competent backup for Moncada if he needs a day here and there, and could hopefully give you something as a DH, at least to buy time for Vaughn. Over his last 2 seasons, (166 games) he has a .788 OPS and an OPS + of 115. 31 2B, 32 HR, 76 BB, 119 K. If he could give you that, I think you take it happily. I don't think I'd love or hate him being in the trade. Again, depending on of course what the cost is. I think there could be some value to Seager, and if taking him on lowers the price, it could be worth exploring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) On 1/8/2021 at 11:14 PM, turnin' two said: Wow. Was just looking at his numbers and 7 BBs??? Holy smokes! I would love to have that guy. That's pretty great. He has been reasonably good each of the last 3 seasons, but was at a different level last year. Even if he is the guy from the previous 2 years, that is certainly helpful, but the ever present question, is what is his cost? The 2018/19 version of him is really good as your 4 starter. The 2020 version gives you an unreal rotation. I don't follow the M's enough to know if that was real or the result of any significant change though. Figuring out a price on him would be complicated. I don't love Seager, if you need to take his on (hopefully part) of his deal. but it wouldn't be the end of the world. He'd be a competent backup for Moncada if he needs a day here and there, and could hopefully give you something as a DH, at least to buy time for Vaughn. Over his last 2 seasons, (166 games) he has a .788 OPS and an OPS + of 115. 31 2B, 32 HR, 76 BB, 119 K. If he could give you that, I think you take it happily. I don't think I'd love or hate him being in the trade. Again, depending on of course what the cost is. I think there could be some value to Seager, and if taking him on lowers the price, it could be worth exploring. Expand Yes like with every trade what is the cost ? You certainly don't want to overvalue 2020 but you know the Mariners will do just that to get the better deal. Better to trade him coming off a career year even if it was less than half a season. His specialty pitches are his cutter and sinker which is just up the Sox alley. His curve and change up are not nearly as effective . He also doesn't throw very hard so aesthetically he doesn't appeal to those who clamor for flamethrowers. Much like why many here weren't clamoring for Keuchel. As a comp perhaps you compare him to Kyle Hendricks but Hendricks has been awesome for a lot longer because he has a great change up which tunnels well with his sinker. The Sox really don't need 2020 Gonzales but that is the best case scenario and would be a huge help in winning a Championship. As long as he can still be 2019 Marco Gonzales he will provide what the Sox need. Edited January 8, 2021 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 9:37 PM, Dick Allen said: I agree. I love just about everything at Portillos, but their burgers lack taste. They look great, but we’re always disappointing to me. Expand Just don't understand if a place makes one kind of food that is exquisite (hot dogs) - why would you EVER order anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Marco Gonzales would be an absolute slam dunk acquisition. There's not a better fit (that is realistic) out there, IMO. He'd complement this rotation and even the bullpen perfectly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Gonzalez does have great control but you can like run to the plate and back before his fastball arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:50 PM, bmags said: Gonzalez does have great control but you can like run to the plate and back before his fastball arrives. Expand Sure, but lefty, cheap, controlled, durable, limits hard contact, doesn't walk anyone, avoids home runs. He's a younger and better (and cheaper) Keuchel, IMO. A Keuchel who allows fewer walks and pitches deeper into games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turnin' two Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:39 PM, longshot7 said: Just don't understand if a place makes one kind of food that is exquisite (hot dogs) - why would you EVER order anything else? Expand I only eat hot dogs at the ball park. Every where else just lacks that certain something. Portillos burgers are great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 FWIW, In Merkin's latest mailbag he did say that the Sox will be in attendance for Kluber's workout next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:53 PM, turnin' two said: I only eat hot dogs at the ball park. Every where else just lacks that certain something. Portillos burgers are great. Expand The ballpark pigs’ buttholes are aged to perfection over the winter months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:39 PM, longshot7 said: Just don't understand if a place makes one kind of food that is exquisite (hot dogs) - why would you EVER order anything else? Expand What if you go multiple times per week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maloney.adam Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 We don’t need another flame thrower. Just someone who can be reliable and can limit hard contact. He’s a younger version of Kuechel. I like this a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:50 PM, bmags said: Gonzalez does have great control but you can like run to the plate and back before his fastball arrives. Expand I spent a little while looking through the statcast stuff, his fastball velocity has decreased each of the last few years at the same time as the effectiveness of that pitch has consistently improved each of the last 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:57 PM, Sleepy Harold said: FWIW, In Merkin's latest mailbag he did say that the Sox will be in attendance for Kluber's workout next week. Expand Kluber (assuming he’s healthy) is the best option in free agency other than Bauer. He is a legit difference maker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 11:57 PM, Sleepy Harold said: FWIW, In Merkin's latest mailbag he did say that the Sox will be in attendance for Kluber's workout next week. Expand I would hope so. Explore as many options as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 12:00 AM, maloney.adam said: We don’t need another flame thrower. Just someone who can be reliable and can limit hard contact. He’s a younger version of Kuechel. I like this a lot. Expand If he could just get that changeup working we'd have something like Hendricks (Kyle not Liam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackout Friday Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 On 1/9/2021 at 12:01 AM, Balta1701 said: I spent a little while looking through the statcast stuff, his fastball velocity has decreased each of the last few years at the same time as the effectiveness of that pitch has consistently improved each of the last 4 years. Expand He added some cut. He’s staying tall and ditched his curve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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