southsideirish71 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, fathom said: Wonder if you and others that vote for that will still feel that way once Twins make their moves (for example, Tanaka, Cruz and Didi) Well it will be interesting what they wind up doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFutureIsNear Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 While he’s obviously not as proven, at least Burnes has upside...I’m not buying last year’s small sample size- to me Gonzales is still the 190 inning 4 ERA guy he’s always been. Obviously that’s still a valuable pitcher, but just no way that type of pitcher is worth Madrigal, Heuer, Kelley + more. That’s crazy talk in my opinion. Seager brings nothing to the deal either and completely goes against the logic of budget being the issue. I’m not against trading prospects for a piece that can get us to the World Series, but Gonzales ain’t that. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Wisebri224 said: Here we go again.....I still believe after sources saying Jerry wants to wait on Gio's extension until after the pandemic (just making it more expensive and less likely Jerry does it), the window is from 2021-23. Gotta go for it now. I'm going for choice A, sign LaStella or Wong and go get this. I did find it funny though that choice B was Trevor Cahill and nothing else. Is Trevor Cahill gonna cost $15 million??????? This is stupid. Why do we need to trade Madrigal to get a good starter? Heuer+Kelley+++ should nab a pretty good one on it's own. There's absoulely no way that Gonzales is the same price as burnes and would cost that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, iWiN4PreP said: This is stupid. Why do we need to trade Madrigal to get a good starter? Heuer+Kelley+++ should nab a pretty good one on it's own. There's absoulely no way that Gonzales is the same price as burnes and would cost that. Actually think the haul for Gonzalez would be nearly identical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Wisebri224 said: Here we go again.....I still believe after sources saying Jerry wants to wait on Gio's extension until after the pandemic (just making it more expensive and less likely Jerry does it), the window is from 2021-23. Gotta go for it now. I'm going for choice A, sign LaStella or Wong and go get this. I did find it funny though that choice B was Trevor Cahill and nothing else. Is Trevor Cahill gonna cost $15 million??????? Who is our 2B after trade one if we can’t even afford anything better than Cahill? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Pal said: Actually think the haul for Gonzalez would be nearly identical. ? Then we shouldn't trade for him. I'd be PISSED if we traded Madrigal for Gonzales. Burnes has the ceiling you want... Gonzales is going to regress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Wisebri224 said: Most of the online foodies and even not Cishek keep hinting they had about $15 million left to play with after Hendriks. More than likely because that would push them in upwards of $180 million on the luxury tax books (not actual spending) and give them little flexibility moving forward. The luxury tax payroll figure for 2021 is completely meaningless for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, fathom said: Wonder if you and others that vote for that will still feel that way once Twins make their moves (for example, Tanaka, Cruz and Didi) Why do you think the Twins have all this heat lined up? And don’t get me wrong, I’d probably choose option A, but just not sure why you think Twins have a ton of big stuff planned. Edited January 22, 2021 by Chicago White Sox Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Why do you think the Twins have all this heat lined up? And don’t get me wrong, I’d probably choose option A, but just not sure why you think Twins have a ton of big stuff planned. Just rumors out there connecting them to these avenues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 27 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: The luxury tax payroll figure for 2021 is completely meaningless for us Having up front tax hit is actually good because the actual contracts are back loaded. This allows us to dollar cost average some of the extensions so that their average amounts will be below contract values in the years we might actually have to worry about the tax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Wisebri224 said: Here we go again.....I still believe after sources saying Jerry wants to wait on Gio's extension until after the pandemic (just making it more expensive and less likely Jerry does it), the window is from 2021-23. Gotta go for it now. I'm going for choice A, sign LaStella or Wong and go get this. I did find it funny though that choice B was Trevor Cahill and nothing else. Is Trevor Cahill gonna cost $15 million??????? Since it would be ridiculous to trade key pieces from both our starting lineup and bullpen plus throw in a future TOR arm for a #4 in our rotation...I pick B. I would rather have Mike Leake but he wasn't given as an option. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirmin' for Yermin Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, iWiN4PreP said: This is stupid. Why do we need to trade Madrigal to get a good starter? Heuer+Kelley+++ should nab a pretty good one on it's own. There's absoulely no way that Gonzales is the same price as burnes and would cost that. I'd rather keep Kelley than Madrigal. I have spoken, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Cruz just gives me flashbacks of every other DH "solution" we've trotted out there, and I get worried. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Heads22 said: Cruz just gives me flashbacks of every other DH "solution" we've trotted out there, and I get worried. Yup, White Sox M.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buehrle>Wood Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 55 minutes ago, Squirmin' for Yermin said: I'd rather keep Kelley than Madrigal. I have spoken, Peak soxtalk delusion 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakes Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Heads22 said: Cruz just gives me flashbacks of every other DH "solution" we've trotted out there, and I get worried. If they sign him, I will assume this is his fall off year. The pattern is getting impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SonofaRoache Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 2 hours ago, Heads22 said: Cruz just gives me flashbacks of every other DH "solution" we've trotted out there, and I get worried. Except Cruz is actually MVP worthy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 24 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Fucking wrong Sox in on that action! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Chicago White Sox Posted January 23, 2021 Author Share Posted January 23, 2021 16 minutes ago, aeichhor said: Excellent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YourWhatHurts Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 5 hours ago, Pal said: Actually think the haul for Gonzalez would be nearly identical. Why? Burnes' stuff is way better. I get why the Sox would have interest in both, and I do get why the Sox would give up quality ceiling for Burnes, but not so much for Marco. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 (edited) Maybe a resolution is coming soon? Edited January 23, 2021 by Sleepy Harold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smellysox Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 11 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Maybe a resolution is coming soon? Yeah, the wondering of where Richards will land isn't going to last long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pal Posted January 23, 2021 Share Posted January 23, 2021 14 hours ago, YourWhatHurts said: Why? Burnes' stuff is way better. I get why the Sox would have interest in both, and I do get why the Sox would give up quality ceiling for Burnes, but not so much for Marco. 4 (option for 5) years of cheap control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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