Sox80 Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cashman said: Me thinks, Jerry is on the 4yr plan to selling. Hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ'S Cousin Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 The 4th year of the Hendriks deal is similar to 2 deals that us older fans will remember. The Bobby Bonilla deal that was with the Mets, he’s getting paid until 2035, and Julio “Juice” Cruz, he got paid until 2009. 5.64 million spread out over 15 years starting in 1994, ending in 2009. Nice pensions!!! So Hendriks 4th year, if they buy him out is nothing new to the White Sox. If you remember the Julio Cruz deal was met a lot of resentment. We traded away a very popular Jorge Orta in 1983. The Sox did it at the trade deadline to WAKE UP the team and prove that nobody is untouchable. The Sox went on to win the Division in 1983 only to lose to the Orioles. Juice Cruz score the winning run in the Clinching game in September. just a bit of boring history for you youngsters. LOL. I was there for the clinching game and game 4 in the playoffs the Britt Burns pitched his heart out on 1 leg. I’d be interested to see if anyone remembers these events. i believe Hendriks will have 2 GREAT YEARS!! Why? Because we are so deep and we may not need a closer every night because hopefully we’ll up in the 8th and 9th in non save situations, HOPEFULLY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulture Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 Jorge Orta left the Sox via free agency after ‘79 season. It was Bernazard who was traded for Julio Cruz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ'S Cousin Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 I stand corrected. Had a brain cramp in my old age. But I believe the rest of what I said is correct. GREAT catch. Loved Tony B. If Jerry Dybszinski’s base running error doesn’t happen in game 4, the Sox win in 9 and don’t go into extra innings and then there would have been a game 5. if anybody remembers Greg Luzinski also had a terrible playoff and was not clutch. Loved that team. Lamar Hoyt fell apart after he left to go to San Diego, Britt Burns bad legs finally gave out, Juice Cruz turned out to a piece of shit after about a season or 2. Floyd Bannister, Richard Dotson, Baines, Kittle, Hairston ( great pinch hitter) Rudy Law. Tom Paciorek!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarava Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, AJ'S Cousin said: The 4th year of the Hendriks deal is similar to 2 deals that us older fans will remember. The Bobby Bonilla deal that was with the Mets, he’s getting paid until 2035, and Julio “Juice” Cruz, he got paid until 2009. 5.64 million spread out over 15 years starting in 1994, ending in 2009. Nice pensions!!! So Hendriks 4th year, if they buy him out is nothing new to the White Sox. If you remember the Julio Cruz deal was met a lot of resentment. We traded away a very popular Jorge Orta in 1983. The Sox did it at the trade deadline to WAKE UP the team and prove that nobody is untouchable. The Sox went on to win the Division in 1983 only to lose to the Orioles. Juice Cruz score the winning run in the Clinching game in September. just a bit of boring history for you youngsters. LOL. I was there for the clinching game and game 4 in the playoffs the Britt Burns pitched his heart out on 1 leg. I’d be interested to see if anyone remembers these events. i believe Hendriks will have 2 GREAT YEARS!! Why? Because we are so deep and we may not need a closer every night because hopefully we’ll up in the 8th and 9th in non save situations, HOPEFULLY. I was at the clinching game in 83, but not any playoff games. Great childhood memories 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, AJ'S Cousin said: I stand corrected. Had a brain cramp in my old age. But I believe the rest of what I said is correct. GREAT catch. Loved Tony B. If Jerry Dybszinski’s base running error doesn’t happen in game 4, the Sox win in 9 and don’t go into extra innings and then there would have been a game 5. if anybody remembers Greg Luzinski also had a terrible playoff and was not clutch. Loved that team. Lamar Hoyt fell apart after he left to go to San Diego, Britt Burns bad legs finally gave out, Juice Cruz turned out to a piece of shit after about a season or 2. Floyd Bannister, Richard Dotson, Baines, Kittle, Hairston ( great pinch hitter) Rudy Law. Tom Paciorek!!! Yep...I've been a fan since 1955 when I was 10 years old. Don't feel bad about that brain cramp...I get lots of those. To answer your question...yes, I remember all those players and situations. Funny how life goes on whether they are good moves or bad moves. Just like now, every move seemed earth-shatteringly important. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 hours ago, AJ'S Cousin said: I stand corrected. Had a brain cramp in my old age. But I believe the rest of what I said is correct. GREAT catch. Loved Tony B. If Jerry Dybszinski’s base running error doesn’t happen in game 4, the Sox win in 9 and don’t go into extra innings and then there would have been a game 5. if anybody remembers Greg Luzinski also had a terrible playoff and was not clutch. Loved that team. Lamar Hoyt fell apart after he left to go to San Diego, Britt Burns bad legs finally gave out, Juice Cruz turned out to a piece of shit after about a season or 2. Floyd Bannister, Richard Dotson, Baines, Kittle, Hairston ( great pinch hitter) Rudy Law. Tom Paciorek!!! Winning Ugly Team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ'S Cousin Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Of all the early teams, one of my favorites was the Southside Hit Men, 1977. Soderholm, Zisk, Gamble, a lot of fun that year but they ran out of gas. Stone was part of that team also, Wilbur Wood, Kessinger, Alan Bannister, tough clutch hitter. Still had 90 wins, which today gets you into the playoffs. A lot of washed up pitchers that tried hard but faded. Still have the T-shirt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, poppysox said: Yep...I've been a fan since 1955 when I was 10 years old. Don't feel bad about that brain cramp...I get lots of those. To answer your question...yes, I remember all those players and situations. Funny how life goes on whether they are good moves or bad moves. Just like now, every move seemed earth-shatteringly important. That makes you right around TLR's age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 17 hours ago, AJ'S Cousin said: I stand corrected. Had a brain cramp in my old age. But I believe the rest of what I said is correct. GREAT catch. Loved Tony B. If Jerry Dybszinski’s base running error doesn’t happen in game 4, the Sox win in 9 and don’t go into extra innings and then there would have been a game 5. if anybody remembers Greg Luzinski also had a terrible playoff and was not clutch. Loved that team. Lamar Hoyt fell apart after he left to go to San Diego, Britt Burns bad legs finally gave out, Juice Cruz turned out to a piece of shit after about a season or 2. Floyd Bannister, Richard Dotson, Baines, Kittle, Hairston ( great pinch hitter) Rudy Law. Tom Paciorek!!! If the White Sox win that game they win the world series. Hoyt was dominating and the Orioles were not touching him in game 5. Sox pitching would have carried them through the world series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Harry Chappas said: If the White Sox win that game they win the world series. Hoyt was dominating and the Orioles were not touching him in game 5. Sox pitching would have carried them through the world series. At the time surely all WS fans were convinced that was how it would have played out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, poppysox said: At the time surely all WS fans were convinced that was how it would have played out. Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Dick Allen Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, maloney.adam said: Is he insinuating Lopez gets DFAd or gets dealt for a non 40 man prospect? I think he is. Edited January 14, 2021 by Dick Allen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Is he insinuating Lopez gets DFAd? I think he is. That's what I was thinking. What's the 40-man at now? Edit: just checked. It's at 39 so they don't need to make room for Hendriks. Edited January 14, 2021 by manbearpuig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Why would they DFA Lopez when guys like Zavala and Ruiz are still on the 40? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 The arb trials are coming up very soon if people don't settle. That's all that is about ReyLo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Why would they DFA Lopez when guys like Zavala and Ruiz are still on the 40? And an open spot on the 40-man. As Dick said, could just be a minor trade for non- 40 man player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: The arb trials are coming up very soon is people don't settle. That's all that is about ReyLo. Oh yeah that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 14, 2021 Share Posted January 14, 2021 32 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Is he insinuating Lopez gets DFAd or gets dealt for a non 40 man prospect? I think he is. Not insinuating anything. Tomorrow is the deadline though so resolution on contract is coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerksticks Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 After reading the fangraphs article about Hendriks’ contract...if anybody thinks Rick Hahn isn’t the master beast of baseball...please just GTFOH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 Rosenthal confirmed that Hendriks’ contract would count as $18M/year from 2021 to 2023 for luxury tax purposes and potentially zero for 2024 assuming the rules remain the same under the new CBA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said: Rosenthal confirmed that Hendriks’ contract would count as $18M/year from 2021 to 2023 for luxury tax purposes and potentially zero for 2024 assuming the rules remain the same under the new CBA. Then I see a trade coming rather than signing a free agent for starting pitching. As I said earlier in the Bauer thread, signing Hendriks is an excuse for not signing Bauer and now it appears it will be an excuse for not signing any SP and maybe not another LH bat too . The good news is I've very rarely, if ever, had one of those posts where upon further review didn't age well and am hoping this becomes one. Edited January 15, 2021 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 11 hours ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Not insinuating anything. Tomorrow is the deadline though so resolution on contract is coming If Lopez is DFA'd because they couldn't settle and the estimated arb. cost of $2.2M is deemed too expensive to keep for his current role then either Katz doesn't like what he sees or Sox have run out of money and we will see trades and dumpster diving for anything else added to the 25/26. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptatc Posted January 15, 2021 Share Posted January 15, 2021 19 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Then I see a trade coming rather than signing a free agent for starting pitching. As I said earlier in the Bauer thread, signing Hendriks is an excuse for not signing Bauer and now it appears it will be an excuse for not signing any SP and maybe not another LH bat too . The good news is I've very rarely, if ever, had one of those posts where upon further review didn't age well and am hoping this becomes one. Its 18 for cap purposes but in reality it's only 13 paid out. It's not an excuse not to sign Bauer. The Sox were never going to commit 5 years to a starting pitcher with the options they currently have. They wanted that proven closer at the back of the pen which is a very important piece for a winning team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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