ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Y2Jimmy0 said: Yes it is IS IT GOING TO HAPPEN JIMMY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, fathom said: Or signing with a team outside AL Central either way I'm happy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 This thread has a lot of catching up to do if it's going to equal the Burnes thread . Let's go people ! Nelson Cruz is coming ! (Or he isn't) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Of all the moves (outside of pipedreams like Bauer and Ozuna) that have been kicked around here (including some insane ones), Cruz by far gives me the most excitement. I'm fine if this is the last splash we make, I'm fine going with Reynaldo as a SP and Collins as 2nd Catcher if we get Cruz. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 I’ve thrown this out there before, but if you want to go for it all (and won’t sign Bauer), then you trade Vaughn for Burnes and sign Cruz for two years. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Maybe it’s all a leverage play to scare Minnesota into offering him a second year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Jose Abreu said: Maybe it’s all a leverage play to scare Minnesota into offering him a second year Yep definitely a possibility. Seems peculiar as Hector was just talking a day or two ago about Cruz waiting for clarity on universal DH before deciding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Jose Abreu said: Maybe it’s all a leverage play to scare Minnesota into offering him a second year Wait we want Cruz to be with the Twins for another 2 years ? I might hate that more than the Sox giving him 2 years. I know Cruz is 40 so a 1 year contract for around $15M might get him but can't go 2 years on him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Jose Abreu said: Maybe it’s all a leverage play to scare Minnesota into offering him a second year This is almost certainly what it is. If you remember I think Ozuna's agent used the White Sox and Hector last year in a similar way. Incidentally, if they trade for Burnes, who i assume is slated to make like 500k, instead of the roughly 8m they allegedly budgeted for SP we could use that money to sign Cruz, although it would be pretty much impossible to get Cruz and La Stella for 14.5m combined and we would still need La Stella at 2B if Madrigal is part of the trade package. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, SoCalChiSox said: This is almost certainly what it is. If you remember I think Ozuna's agent used the White Sox and Hector last year in a similar way. Incidentally, if they trade for Burnes, who i assume is slated to make like 500k, instead of the roughly 8m they allegedly budgeted for SP we could use that money to sign Cruz, although it would be pretty much impossible to get Cruz and La Stella for 14.5m combined and we would still need La Stella at 2B if Madrigal is part of the trade package. That’s why I mentioned the idea of trading Vaughn and Heuer for Burnes and signing Cruz. You keep Madrigal this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: That’s why I mentioned the idea of trading Vaughn and Heuer for Burnes and signing Cruz. You keep Madrigal this way. Almost no one here would want to keep Madrigal if it came down to either him or Vaughn in a trade. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrankinSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I feel like we should be freaking out more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotHahn Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 16 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Almost no one here would want to keep Madrigal if it came down to either him or Vaughn in a trade. Does it matter what we think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 18 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Almost no one here would want to keep Madrigal if it came down to either him or Vaughn in a trade. I could live with it if it's only Vaughn and Heuer and no one else . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, KrankinSox said: I feel like we should be freaking out more Nahhh Save the freaking out for if we get him. Right now it's just another in a long line of tweeting heads doing what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, SoCalChiSox said: Almost no one here would want to keep Madrigal if it came down to either him or Vaughn in a trade. I want to keep Madrigal if it comes down to it. 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, poppysox said: I want to keep Madrigal if it comes down to it. Ha we never would have guessed . By the way ,who is that guy in your avatar ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalChiSox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 8 minutes ago, poppysox said: I want to keep Madrigal if it comes down to it. Well played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: Ha we never would have guessed . By the way ,who is that guy in your avatar ? The guy in my avatar is Nick Madrigal as you know. One of my favorite players because he is a throwback to the way the game was. Soxtalk is about having opinions and I have a strong opinion that Madrigal is going to be a fan favorite for years to come. I find it laughable that Madrigal makes a couple of bad defensive plays and he becomes a butcher defensively after 29 games. If you bring up his .340 batting average it is because of a small sample size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 I would be excited about Nelson Cruz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Nelson Cruz + Garrett Richards = AL Champions 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Soxfan Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Nelson Cruz + Garrett Richards = AL Champions Agreed. Sign Cruz and Richards. Amen! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Milwaukee's going to need at least ONE pitcher who can compete this year if they're dreaming of staying in the NL Central race. Houser can be really good, but Lindbloom and Lauer is shaky as it gets as a 4/5 on a playoff-competitive team. At the very least, it would have to be Lopez/Cease and Vaughn (and perhaps one more piece.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 hour ago, fathom said: I’ve thrown this out there before, but if you want to go for it all (and won’t sign Bauer), then you trade Vaughn for Burnes and sign Cruz for 1 year. With that fixed... I would agree, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) If you're willing to go Vaughn, Lopez/Cease and Heuer...you might have a deal. It all depends on how highly Milwaukee scouts value those two pitchers (as opposed to Kopech/Crochet.) That said, would still prefer to go just Cruz and Richards and give the youngsters another year to define themselves. Don't need to make an "all in" move just yet...at least until the trade deadline. Of course, that means another $25 million or so in spending, so not counting on BOTH those guys. But at least ONE would be nice. Edited January 22, 2021 by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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