Sleepy Harold Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: I also don’t get how we was wrong about any of the Machado stuff. He legit reported the exact offer. Oh indeed, many love to overlook that fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macsandz Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 10 minutes ago, mqr said: He was mostly right with the machado stuff too Hector is legit and he had the Machado offer to the dollar as much as Passan did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTruth05 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Cruz to DH and give Vaughn the year to become the starting RF in 2022 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, macsandz said: Hector is legit and he had the Machado offer to the dollar as much as Passan did. Bucket - Give us something here! This Cruz stuff have legs in your opinion? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Who the fuck is this Leo character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who the fuck is this Leo character? Our new favorite insider, of course 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Signing Cruz makes me want to write a list of men's last names in a particular order that is extremely pleasing to look at. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, YoYoIsMyHero said: Our new favorite insider, of course What kind of food is a "Leo"? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, CWSpalehoseCWS said: What kind of food is a "Leo"? Lion meat. We branching out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 15 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: So now that the GOAT insider is reporting this, what do we do think possible terms will be? $14M seems about right to me in this market. I doubt it's that high. He made $14.5M in 2019, and was supposed to make $12M last season. I don't think we see a raise. Hopefully it would be closer to $10M, or I have no idea how they are going to fill out the rest of the roster barring a trade of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSoxFanMike Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: Who the fuck is this Leo character? I don’t know but he replied to Cheesy Beef’s tweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Can Hector at least confirm that Cruz is in the DR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 9 minutes ago, YoYoIsMyHero said: Our new favorite insider, of course He had me at Cruz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 17 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said: So now that the GOAT insider is reporting this, what do we do think possible terms will be? $14M seems about right to me in this market. I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulfly Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) Not a fan of Cruz. Hope this turns out to be wrong. Is he suddenly not going to be on the juice if he signed here? Or did almost everyone here just say that in game threads cause he was on the Twins putting up crazy numbers pushing 40? Edited January 22, 2021 by soulfly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said: I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. There is 1 reason the Sox won't sign Cruz and a mid-rotation starter and it ain't the FO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoYoIsMyHero Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, soulfly said: Not a fan of Cruz. Hope this turns out to be wrong. Is he suddenly not going to be on the juice if he signed here? Or did almost everyone here just say that in game threads cause he was on the Twins putting up crazy numbers after age 40? rules are for thee not for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. 3 prospects? Vaughn for a year, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOFHurt35 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. There was a lot of struggles late last season with this offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, YoYoIsMyHero said: There is 1 reason the Sox won't sign Cruz and a mid-rotation starter and it ain't the FO Look you're not gonna find me defending JR in nearly anything, but if he gives the FO the $14m to spend, and they don't spend it on what they actually need, then you can't blame JR.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, Eminor3rd said: I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. Why not both though? Unless you think we can get Tanaka on a 1/$15M, I’m not sure there is a starter that warrants Cruz money on a one year deal. I guess Paxton would fall into that bucket too, but I think the generally uncertainty with him makes a Cruz signing more defensible. Which three DH prospects are you referring to? Vaughn, Collins, & Mercedes? I think Collins is the favorite to win the backup catcher spot even if they bring another catcher on a minor league deal, so he wouldn’t be going to waste. I think giving Vaughn a year of development time is defensible if you’re adding a Cruz caliber DH. And while Mercedes would be fun to see get a shot, the organization doesn’t seem overly eager to. I’m not going to complain about Cruz on a one year deal and in fact I’d be pumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, kleedawg said: 3 prospects? Vaughn for a year, sure. Vaughn, Collins, Yermin. You can make an argument that Yermin's development doesn't matter, but the point is that there are a plethora of solid internal options that actually need ABs, and there's already an offensive star at nearly every position on the diamond. And when you're a cheapskate team with limited budget and real holes to fill, you don't throw big money at a position where you already have a plethora of solid internal options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: I'm not saying your guess is wrong, but if the Sox sign 40-year old Cruz for $14m to block three prospects on what was already the second-highest scoring offense in the AL instead of signing a mid-rotation starter, I'm gonna have absolutely nothing left to defend this FO. Sure, they were a high scoring offense. What they were lacking was pitching. But it's also true that the more bats you stack the more it can make up for some pitching holes. And Cruz is a big one. And 14 million isn't gonna pay for Bauer. I would gladly take being the 1995 Cleveland Indians over being the White Sox of the last 15 years. And the idea of Yermin and Collins getting "blocked." C'mon, mang. Edited January 22, 2021 by RagahRagah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kleedawg Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Eminor3rd said: Vaughn, Collins, Yermin. You can make an argument that Yermin's development doesn't matter, but the point is that there are a plethora of solid internal options that actually need ABs, and there's already an offensive star at nearly every position on the diamond. And when you're a cheapskate team with limited budget and real holes to fill, you don't throw big money at a position where you already have a plethora of solid internal options. I don't think you want your 2nd catcher DHing. I know we did that last year some, but we were carrying 3 catchers with covid rosters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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