CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 43 minutes ago, vilehoopster said: Am I the only guy that doesn't want Cruz because of this cheating with PEDs. I have said this before: you have to be naive to not think that Cruz is on on PEDs. I know he has never actually been caught, failed drug test caught, and only caught by connection to that whatever lab, but still, it's unreasonable to think he's not on them. The way he has gotten better in his upper 30s, his connection to PEDs in the past. Lance Armstrong when years and years winning Tour de France races, while not getting caught when everyone know he was on PEDs. So don't use his never failing drug tests as an example of his innocence. Plus many, many people on this forum have complained about his PED use in his years with the Twins. But now that he's available, we want his PED cheating ass with the Sox? That just seems so hypocritical to me, "He pisses me off that he cheating for Minny, but wait; now I want him to come cheat for the Sox". I don't want to cheer for a cheater; I don't. If that means the Sox win a few less game, so be it. But I think the Sox can be (and are right now) a World Series contender without the putting the odor of PED cheating on any success the Sox have in the upcoming years. Again, I don't want to cheer for a cheater. Chances are you’ve already rooted for a PED user and have no idea. It’s more widespread than anyone cares to realize. For example, do you like Pablo Ozuna? Should the 2005 season be disregarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, CWSpalehoseCWS said: Chances are you’ve already rooted for a PED user and have no idea. It’s more widespread than anyone cares to realize. For example, do you like Pablo Ozuna? Should the 2005 season be disregarded? Sure, but Cruz's excuse was maybe the worst of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Sure, but Cruz's excuse was maybe the worst of all time. Eh, the excuses are always pathetic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RagahRagah Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 hour ago, vilehoopster said: Am I the only guy that doesn't want Cruz because of this cheating with PEDs. I have said this before: you have to be naive to not think that Cruz is on on PEDs. I know he has never actually been caught, failed drug test caught, and only caught by connection to that whatever lab, but still, it's unreasonable to think he's not on them. The way he has gotten better in his upper 30s, his connection to PEDs in the past. Lance Armstrong when years and years winning Tour de France races, while not getting caught when everyone know he was on PEDs. So don't use his never failing drug tests as an example of his innocence. Plus many, many people on this forum have complained about his PED use in his years with the Twins. But now that he's available, we want his PED cheating ass with the Sox? That just seems so hypocritical to me, "He pisses me off that he cheating for Minny, but wait; now I want him to come cheat for the Sox". I don't want to cheer for a cheater; I don't. If that means the Sox win a few less game, so be it. But I think the Sox can be (and are right now) a World Series contender without the putting the odor of PED cheating on any success the Sox have in the upcoming years. Again, I don't want to cheer for a cheater. I think with our luck, Cruz would come here and actually mash for a little while like we expect but then would get caught juicing and suspended. Seems about right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: Eh, the excuses are always pathetic. Not as pathetic as his. By the time I was properly diagnosed and treated, I had lost 40 pounds. Just weeks before I was to report to spring training in 2012, I was unsure whether I would be physically able to play. Faced with this situation, I made an error in judgment that I deeply regret, and I accept full responsibility for that error. I should have handled the situation differently, and my illness was no excuse. Edited January 25, 2021 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Not as pathetic as his. By the time I was properly diagnosed and treated, I had lost 40 pounds. Just weeks before I was to report to spring training in 2012, I was unsure whether I would be physically able to play. Faced with this situation, I made an error in judgment that I deeply regret, and I accept full responsibility for that error. I should have handled the situation differently, and my illness was no excuse. That looks better than the guys that say they have no idea how it got in their bodies or didn't know it was in another substance they were taking ha. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said: Not as pathetic as his. By the time I was properly diagnosed and treated, I had lost 40 pounds. Just weeks before I was to report to spring training in 2012, I was unsure whether I would be physically able to play. Faced with this situation, I made an error in judgment that I deeply regret, and I accept full responsibility for that error. I should have handled the situation differently, and my illness was no excuse. What is pathetic about admitting to it? I'd rather he just do that. Look at Braun for instance and the others that blame GNC and what not. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, manbearpuig said: That looks better than the guys that say they have no idea how it got in their bodies or didn't know it was in another substance they were taking ha. No one tops Melky here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quin Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, southsider2k5 said: No one tops Melky here. Eh, @Harry Chappas is right. Braun is the all timer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Quin said: Eh, @Harry Chappas is right. Braun is the all timer. Attempting to fake a website to hide everything behind wins the day for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 8 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: What is pathetic about admitting to it? I'd rather he just do that. Look at Braun for instance and the others that blame GNC and what not. Because the story is BS. I got sick and lost 40 lbs, so I roided up. OK. Do you think the Rangers knew that? I wonder if Hector can vouge for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Side Hit Men Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Bud Selig tops the world in terms of Steroid liars. "I never even heard about them [steroids] until 1998 or 1999. I ran a team and nobody was closer to their players and I never heard any comment from them. It wasn't until 1998 or '99 that I heard the discussion." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Chappas Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, Dick Allen said: Because the story is BS. I got sick and lost 40 lbs, so I roided up. OK. Do you think the Rangers knew that? I wonder if Hector can vouge for him. He admitted he did steroids the rest of he story you can believe or not but it does not matter. So you believe the innocent mistake of going on a diet and picking up something at GNC and not asking the professionals at your disposal and instead trust the GNC clerk in the dietary section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balta1701 Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 6 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Attempting to fake a website to hide everything behind wins the day for me. I dunno, Braun targeted an innocent guy doing his job taking samples and tried to destroy his career. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said: He admitted he did steroids the rest of he story you can believe or not but it does not matter. So you believe the innocent mistake of going on a diet and picking up something at GNC and not asking the professionals at your disposal and instead trust the GNC clerk in the dietary section? No. All the stories are BS. I suppose there may be a couple of them where they took something over the counter that contained something they shouldn't have injested, but 99% know exactly what they are doing, or are paying someone who does. Edited January 25, 2021 by Dick Allen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 (edited) Edited January 25, 2021 by Sleepy Harold 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sleepy Harold said: Does this mean normal playoffs too?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 I'm pro-universal DH, but absolutely not at the cost of expanded playoffs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Make it happen Hahn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iWiN4PreP Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, mqr said: I'm pro-universal DH, but absolutely not at the cost of expanded playoffs. 100%. Owners are asshats. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 1 minute ago, fathom said: Make it happen Hahn This should help our chances right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: This should help our chances right? 15 jobs didn't open up so I would think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 25, 2021 Author Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: This should help our chances right? Doesn’t hurt, but still seems like an uphill battle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sleepy Harold Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Just now, Chicago White Sox said: This should help our chances right? One would think considering his market has now been cut in half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mqr Posted January 25, 2021 Share Posted January 25, 2021 Somewhat surprising to me that the players hate the expanded playoffs enough to not take the DH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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