longshot7 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, YASNY said: southside2k5 can share it with you, as he did in the Hendriks thread a day or two ago at about 1 in the afternoon. Give us the gist - I'm too lazy to look it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxBlanco Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, longshot7 said: Give us the gist - I'm too lazy to look it up https://vault.si.com/vault/2006/03/27/anatomy-of-a-rumor 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eminor3rd Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, MiddleCoastBias said: Tanaka may be what we need, but he ain't happenin'. Rumors are that he's considering going back to Japan on a 4-year deal. If he's staying here, it's to re-sign with the Yankees. He's 32. He doesn't want a 1-year deal from a new club that he doesn't know if he's ultimately looking to go back to Japan eventually. I know man and I'm actually pumped about it because I'm a huge Rakuten fan and I just can't believe he would end up anywhere other than Rakuten and good LORD do they need him right now. Tanaka/Norimoto/Kishi/Wakui/Shiomi/Takinaka with Ishibashi/Yuge on the outside-looking-in is all of a sudden a LEGIT rotation, especially considering that Hayakawa could be ready sooner or later and could jump in when Shiomi gets hurt or Wakui/Takinaka turn back into pumpkins. But my point is that what the Sox need is a reliable veteran #3 on a market-rate 1 year deal, whether that's Tanaka or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 2 hours ago, YASNY said: Excuse me, folks, But I claim to be the author of the dumbest post in Soxtalk history. Until you offer a post that gets ripped in Sports Illustrated .... I rest my case. Nice to see you around these parts, sir! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poppysox Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: My thing is, based on everything I've read, Vaughn is ready to "take his lumps" to make the transition, and I think the best time to have an important player go through that is when the offense is already amazing and doesn't need to put pressure on him to produce. Also, with Yermin/Collins are almost aging out of being prospects without ever being given a shot -- they are the perfect dup to sink or swim as the 30-60 day service time bridge they need to find for Vaughn anyway. And then again with such an obvious need to spend the money on in SP, idk, it just seems really obvious that splurging on a veteran rental DH is almost literally the last thing the roster needs. I agree. Would love to see Yermin get the DH 3rd Catcher role while we wait for Vaughn to make his debut. Maybe we find Yermin has some value since the NL will have some clubs in need shortly. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaliSoxFanViaSWside Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 48 minutes ago, Eminor3rd said: My thing is, based on everything I've read, Vaughn is ready to "take his lumps" to make the transition, and I think the best time to have an important player go through that is when the offense is already amazing and doesn't need to put pressure on him to produce. Also, with Yermin/Collins are almost aging out of being prospects without ever being given a shot -- they are the perfect dup to sink or swim as the 30-60 day service time bridge they need to find for Vaughn anyway. And then again with such an obvious need to spend the money on in SP, idk, it just seems really obvious that splurging on a veteran rental DH is almost literally the last thing the roster needs. I understand, it's just I think you are getting a near Trout like bat in Cruz for the same money as someone like Tanaka , Ordorizzi, Paxton guys you really have to cross your fingers on. Cruz is due for regression one of these years but after being Trout like in 2020 how much drop off can we really expect ? That lineup and BP would cover up a lot of pitching regression if Keuchel and Lynn aren't up to their usual snuff. You could pick up pitching at the TDL but a bat like Cruz isn't readily available in most circumstances. Cruz seems like he almost single handedly got the Twins into the playoffs. Edited January 18, 2021 by CaliSoxFanViaSWside 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldsox Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 and yet, no one here knows how good of a hitter we have in Yermin. If Sox had just given him a chance in 19-20, then we could evaluate the need for Cruz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
almagest Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 20 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said: I understand, it's just I think you are getting a near Trout like bat in Cruz for the same money as someone like Tanaka , Ordorizzi, Paxton guys you really have to cross your fingers on. Cruz is due for regression one of these years but after being Trout like in 2020 how much drop off can we really expect ? That lineup and BP would cover up a lot of pitching regression if Keuchel and Lynn aren't up to their usual snuff. You could pick up pitching at the TDL but a bat like Cruz isn't readily available in most circumstances. Cruz seems like he almost single handedly got the Twins into the playoffs. BBRef has him at a projected .883 OPS which would be better production from DH than anyone else we could get (Ozuna projection at .817, Brantley at .814), and would be the best production we've had at DH since Thome. Edited January 18, 2021 by almagest 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longshot7 Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoxBlanco said: https://vault.si.com/vault/2006/03/27/anatomy-of-a-rumor Funny that Clemens was accurate though. So many typing errors in that article tho, reads like QAnon. Edited January 18, 2021 by longshot7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, longshot7 said: Funny that Clemens was accurate though. So many typing errors in that article tho, reads like QAnon. Yeah something was up with that page. It got to a point where it was unreadable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: Yeah something was up with that page. It got to a point where it was unreadable. That was from 15 years ago, probably 5 content management systems and multiple servers, and SI likely cares very little about making sure the markup kept working Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 18, 2021 Share Posted January 18, 2021 4 hours ago, YASNY said: Excuse me, folks, But I claim to be the author of the dumbest post in Soxtalk history. Until you offer a post that gets ripped in Sports Illustrated .... I rest my case. Holy shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Sacamano Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 22 hours ago, YouCanPutItOnTheBoardYES! said: Nelson Cruz to the Sox confirmed. If it's from Hector Gomez, then it's Nelson Cruz anywhere but the Sox, confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 minutes ago, SoxAce said: Holy shit! The article is on the previous page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 19, 2021 Author Share Posted January 19, 2021 If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago White Sox Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 17 minutes ago, fathom said: If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing. Him hyping up a signing that’s been known for six months is beyond lame, but definitely feels like that’s how this will shake out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 28 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: The article is on the previous page. I've seen it. I'm a loooong time vet on this board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonofaRoache Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 58 minutes ago, fathom said: If you noticed, Hector is reporting on international FA signings today. Have a strong feeling the news he mentioned will be Vera signing. He won't see the wrath coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSpalehoseCWS Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 29 minutes ago, SonofaRoache said: He won't see the wrath coming. He felt a lot of it prior offseasons. I'd like to think he isn't that dumb, but in the same token, most casual Sox fans do not know who Veras is or even remember the articles last February. Still a big deal to get one of the top arms in the period, but we're all die hards, and thanks to Jimmy, we all know it's been a done deal since last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted January 19, 2021 Share Posted January 19, 2021 7 hours ago, Tony said: We need to teach these young pups the history of Soxtalk... Sox N Roll... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose Abreu Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 Is that Cruz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Jimmy0 Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 2 minutes ago, southsider2k5 said: Is that Cruz? Yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joejoesox Posted January 22, 2021 Share Posted January 22, 2021 well either that dude has no idea what context means, or Cruz is coming here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted January 22, 2021 Author Share Posted January 22, 2021 Just now, joesaiditstrue said: well either that dude has no idea what context means, or Cruz is coming here Or signing with a team outside AL Central Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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